Comments on: Georgia Upholds Ban on Payday Loans

By: Christina

Christina — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:28:48 +0000

Seriously, this is big government deciding how we should choose to do business.how much interest woul a bank be charging when they charge a 35.00 fee on a 1.47 dollar bounced check…now times that by three….hmmmm Banks get around this by calling it a fee. They are the ones making huge money. Payday loans ahave huge loss with those that don’t pay too remember they are taking a huge risk on low income clients. I might add there are high paid clients going for those loans too. They like to state low income most are not low income in fact all are employed and most make an average of 1435.00 per month take home. Most on ssi or ssd cannot get payday loans and if some companies do loan they loan small amounts to smaller incomes. We need to make our own decisions on who we do business with. Honestly,when i go to a payday loan company i know up front how much I have to pay. When I bounce one check I could be drowned in debt in days…You descide

By: bluemage

bluemage — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:42:19 +0000

I’m insulted by this law which implies that the “poor consumers” are children who have no idea what they’re signing or agreeing to. I used payday loans myself and have paid back every single one with no long term problems and they were essential when I was in a tight spot. The alleged cycle of debt is caused by the consumer themselves. Lenders will tell you that payday loan is meant to be SHORT TERM not a long term solution. And no I don’t work for a payday lender. I agree with the previous poster that banks and credit card companies are just as if not more abusive in their fees. The law DID NOT stop payday lending. People who can just go out of state now. And numbers of bounced checks, bank fees, overdrafts and bankruptcies actually went up in the state of GA after the ban. The only entity that this law helped in the long run was the banks.

By: Bankster

Bankster — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:19:43 +0000

Why don’t all you geniuses tell me what it is when a bank charges an overdraft fee until your payday direct deposit comes in?

What’s the limit on that practice, eh?

Anti-payday lending laws are bank trojan horses. Banks and credit card companies are vastly more abusive than payday lenders, as “no one suspects the banks”. They’re good and proper usurers.

By: anonEmouse

anonEmouse — Thu, 24 May 2007 15:29:54 +0000

I worked for one of these sleazy PayDay companies many years ago. The owners wouldn’t provide any benefits whatsoever to their employees despite the obviously high net profits they nicely held for themselves. I’ve never worked with such greedy and unethical people since then.

By: William

William — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:59:46 +0000

I understand the average payday loan is $200 and fee Ga was going to allow was 15%. Sooo, how does a $30 fee become preditory. How does someone get stuck in the cycle of debt for $230 and can’t get out? All of this is from the Center for responsible lending, the left wing group who if your car is in the shop and payday is a week away….they make you walk! I would rather the CHOICE to pay the $30! Why do you think you need someone to protect you from yourself? Use common sense guys!

By: jaymore

jaymore — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:55:43 +0000

What everyone seems to be overlooking in this discussion is the fact that APR is irrelevant for a typical 14-day payday loan. A fee of $15 is just that, a one-time fee that doesn’t change over the course of the two week period. Not only that, but $15 to borrow $100 is cheaper than a bank’s NSF fee, credit card late fee or utility bill penalty charge. Groups that stand to gain from abolishing payday lending have so distorted the issue that the facts are seldom mentioned. But the truth about the industry is there for those who have the integrity to do the research.

By: saving advice

saving advice — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:48:50 +0000

Good for Georgia…now if all the states would bet the guts to do the same everyone would be in a better position.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:36:44 +0000

Terrific news. Now those stinky useless poor people will keep having to go to the mafia when they need to borrow money! And the mob will not only charge them even MORE interest than that, but they’ll also break their legs and kidnap their children if they don’t pay promptly! Muahahaha!

But seriously…this talk of “predatory lending” is a joke. There are real predators out there, and laws like this one just give them more power and more customers. In the meantime, an industry that (unlike the competitors empowered by this law) has never killed or injured anyone, is being pushed out of the state of Georgia.

By: morton

morton — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:50:49 +0000

The Georgia law that outlawed payday lending included exceptions for credit card banks and licensed finance companies. Payday lenders are unwilling to make loans as regulated rates. They could have done so before or after 2004 as licensed lenders.

The only thing that changed in 2004 was that payday lenders left the state because the legislature made it a felony to engage in unlicensed lending.

Payday lenders vow to bring this issue up again in 2008. They say that the market is demanding their product and that they intend to satisfy that demand. I suppose a crack dealer would justify his enterprise with the same sort of logic – the product is in high demand, so it must be a good idea, right?

The fact is that these loans push financially delicate borrowers beyond the tipping point, resulting in bankruptcies, foreclosures and the like. Those results carry with them severe societal costs, thereby making a nullity the payday inustry mantra of “let the private market dictate” the sort of transactions that should be legal.

By: Ben

Ben — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:48:15 +0000

This is great news! In my opinion payday loans are basically predatory lending, hopefully other state governments will take notice.

By: nickel

nickel — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:47:13 +0000

KMC: While I agree that credit cards can sometimes charge exorbitant rates, I’ve never heard of one with a 390% APR (or anything near that). Payday loan rates are typically an order of magnitude higher than credit cards.

By: KMC

KMC — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:10:34 +0000

So if you use a payday loan, there’s law protecting you from usury. You’re not so lucky if you use a credit card thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court (see Smiley v. Citibank). I find it ironic there’s so much regulation (and rightly so, don’t get me wrong) on pawn shops and payday loans in some states but banks can essentially charge whatever they want.

By: nickel

nickel — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:25:46 +0000

Oh, as to the second part of your question (i.e., what happens when the loan exceeds $3k), I’m not sure. It’s possible that unlicensed lenders aren’t allowed to make loans over that amount, period. Of course, even if that were the case, it wouldn’t take long for a moderate-sized payday loan to compound to that point (and beyond).

By: nickel

nickel — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:23:52 +0000

Right. The 15% is what they were hoping to change it to if they were able to repeal the anti-payday law. As far as the 8% goes, I’m not sure if that’s per deferral, or annually — I suspect that it’s the latter; otherwise the payday loan industry wouldn’t have completely closed down in Georgia back in 2004. After all, 8% per deferral is still a ton of money. Remember, it specifies that the 8% limit applies to non-licensed lenders, such that banks and credit card companies can still exceed this amount (as they very often do).

By: Blaine Moore

Blaine Moore — Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:18:24 +0000

15% per deferment seems to be a bit more than 8%; I wonder if once that balance got over the small loan limit whether they could increase the actual interest rate above that?