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		<title>By: MoneyNing</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2007/12/05/year-end-money-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-114159</link>
		<dc:creator>MoneyNing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely increase your 401k contribution rate if you aren&#039;t at the maximum already!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely increase your 401k contribution rate if you aren&#8217;t at the maximum already!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Roman</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2007/12/05/year-end-money-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-113648</link>
		<dc:creator>Roman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a related question - my property tax bill says Tax Year 2007-2008. The third and final payment is due in February 2008. Someone told me that if I pay it in December, I could deduct that from my 2007 income. Is that true? This would be very beneficial to me because next year I expect to have lower income than this year but also I will contribute more to 401k, so it would help me to shift this property tax to 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a related question &#8211; my property tax bill says Tax Year 2007-2008. The third and final payment is due in February 2008. Someone told me that if I pay it in December, I could deduct that from my 2007 income. Is that true? This would be very beneficial to me because next year I expect to have lower income than this year but also I will contribute more to 401k, so it would help me to shift this property tax to 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2007/12/05/year-end-money-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-113645</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is rather amazing how many people do not empty out their flexible spending accounts. Those flexible spending accounts are great tools, so use them everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is rather amazing how many people do not empty out their flexible spending accounts. Those flexible spending accounts are great tools, so use them everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2007/12/05/year-end-money-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-113644</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your itemized deductions are close (in $ terms) to the standard deduction, consider delaying property tax payments and charitable donations into January 2008, or order to &quot;bunch deductions&quot; into 2008. 

With this approach you take the standard deduction in (for example) odd years (2007), and then itemized with &#039;doubled up&#039; deductions in the even years (2008).

For folks whose itemized deductions are close to the standard deduction then this this increases your tax liability in the years where you take the std deduction, but it decreases your tax liability in the alternate years where you itemize with 2x worth of certain deductions.

You have to run the numbers for yourself to see if it works (e.g. if bunching deductions causes you to hit AMT then all bets are off).

Just google &quot;bunching deductions&quot;, there are lots of articles on this, and lots of other ways to take advantage of &quot;bunching&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your itemized deductions are close (in $ terms) to the standard deduction, consider delaying property tax payments and charitable donations into January 2008, or order to &#8220;bunch deductions&#8221; into 2008. </p>
<p>With this approach you take the standard deduction in (for example) odd years (2007), and then itemized with &#8216;doubled up&#8217; deductions in the even years (2008).</p>
<p>For folks whose itemized deductions are close to the standard deduction then this this increases your tax liability in the years where you take the std deduction, but it decreases your tax liability in the alternate years where you itemize with 2x worth of certain deductions.</p>
<p>You have to run the numbers for yourself to see if it works (e.g. if bunching deductions causes you to hit AMT then all bets are off).</p>
<p>Just google &#8220;bunching deductions&#8221;, there are lots of articles on this, and lots of other ways to take advantage of &#8220;bunching&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal Duchess</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2007/12/05/year-end-money-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-113627</link>
		<dc:creator>Frugal Duchess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nickel:

#1 &amp; #5 speak to me.
One year, in Dec. I had so much in my  flex spending account that I went hunting for ways to spend the funds (New eyeglasses!)

And of course, I love the idea of purging the house. I agree: very cathartic.

Take Care,
Sharon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nickel:</p>
<p>#1 &amp; #5 speak to me.<br />
One year, in Dec. I had so much in my  flex spending account that I went hunting for ways to spend the funds (New eyeglasses!)</p>
<p>And of course, I love the idea of purging the house. I agree: very cathartic.</p>
<p>Take Care,<br />
Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2007/12/05/year-end-money-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-113621</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for posting this.  it&#039;s of great help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for posting this.  it&#8217;s of great help!</p>
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		<title>By: Colin McConnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin McConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to item 1, my employer allows until March 15th of 2008 to actually INCUR EXPENSES for my 2007 FSA.  

Apparently, my employer isn&#039;t the only one, as this excerpt from Yahoo! Finance &#039;Four Top-Priority Tax Tasks (and What You Can Blow Off... for Now)&#039; explains: 

Can wait: Using up last year&#039;s FSA dollars. If you already have an FSA but haven&#039;t used up all your dollars, don&#039;t rush to buy extra pairs of bifocals just yet. Many plans have extended the allowable time frame to incur expenses by two-and-a-half months -- so no more scrambling to spend cash you&#039;ve set aside. (Check with HR to be sure.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to item 1, my employer allows until March 15th of 2008 to actually INCUR EXPENSES for my 2007 FSA.  </p>
<p>Apparently, my employer isn&#8217;t the only one, as this excerpt from Yahoo! Finance &#8216;Four Top-Priority Tax Tasks (and What You Can Blow Off&#8230; for Now)&#8217; explains: </p>
<p>Can wait: Using up last year&#8217;s FSA dollars. If you already have an FSA but haven&#8217;t used up all your dollars, don&#8217;t rush to buy extra pairs of bifocals just yet. Many plans have extended the allowable time frame to incur expenses by two-and-a-half months &#8212; so no more scrambling to spend cash you&#8217;ve set aside. (Check with HR to be sure.)</p>
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		<title>By: nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon, you&#039;re right about underpayment penalties being a big gotcha.

I&#039;ve been doing &quot;self-withholding&quot; for my self-employment income. Basically, I&#039;m segregating that money into a separate high yield savings account and then paying out just enough in quarterly payment to avoid any penalties. If you don&#039;t do this (estimated quarterly payments), you could be in for a nasty surprise at the end of the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon, you&#8217;re right about underpayment penalties being a big gotcha.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been doing &#8220;self-withholding&#8221; for my self-employment income. Basically, I&#8217;m segregating that money into a separate high yield savings account and then paying out just enough in quarterly payment to avoid any penalties. If you don&#8217;t do this (estimated quarterly payments), you could be in for a nasty surprise at the end of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2007/12/05/year-end-money-moves/comment-page-1/#comment-113609</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We are finishing off the contributions to our Roth accounts (the first time we have been able to do this) and are now just looking to cut our tax burden. It has been amazing how much interest we have earned by not having our income taxes withheld. We calculate our income tax and then put it into a hight interest savings account. We then make interest all year long on this money.&quot;

Have you done this before? If you aren&#039;t paying at least quarterly estimated taxes, you very well may owe a penalty (http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc306.html)

Another site said this amounted to approxmiately 7% which I am sure is more than the interest you have been getting.

Of course, you probably know all this already and have fulfilled estimated taxes or one of the exceptions. If not, I feel sorry for you :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are finishing off the contributions to our Roth accounts (the first time we have been able to do this) and are now just looking to cut our tax burden. It has been amazing how much interest we have earned by not having our income taxes withheld. We calculate our income tax and then put it into a hight interest savings account. We then make interest all year long on this money.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you done this before? If you aren&#8217;t paying at least quarterly estimated taxes, you very well may owe a penalty (<a href="http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc306.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc306.html</a>)</p>
<p>Another site said this amounted to approxmiately 7% which I am sure is more than the interest you have been getting.</p>
<p>Of course, you probably know all this already and have fulfilled estimated taxes or one of the exceptions. If not, I feel sorry for you <img src='http://www.fivecentnickel.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JB @ GetRichOrDieTrying</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB @ GetRichOrDieTrying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nickel - Thanks... that&#039;s been a great help... and it&#039;s a damn good idea too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nickel &#8211; Thanks&#8230; that&#8217;s been a great help&#8230; and it&#8217;s a damn good idea too!</p>
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		<title>By: nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB: Good question... If you are doing a deductible IRA, then you will of course need to make the contributions before filing in order to take the deduction. If you file first, then make the contribution, I think you&#039;d need to file an amended return to get the deduction.

In the case of something like a Roth IRA, you don&#039;t actually file any information regading your contribution with your tax return. Thus, while I think that the IRS technically wants the contributions made before you file, you could conceivably contribute for 2007 after you file your taxes, but before April 15th. In reality, your brokerage has no way of knowing whether or not you&#039;ve already filed, so they should be willing to code it as 2007 as long as you do so before April 15th.

Of course, this sets up a scenario in which you could potentially file your taxes, get a refund, and then use that money to fund your Roth before the tax deadline (as long as you get your return filed early enough). I&#039;m not recommending this... Just pointing out that it might work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB: Good question&#8230; If you are doing a deductible IRA, then you will of course need to make the contributions before filing in order to take the deduction. If you file first, then make the contribution, I think you&#8217;d need to file an amended return to get the deduction.</p>
<p>In the case of something like a Roth IRA, you don&#8217;t actually file any information regading your contribution with your tax return. Thus, while I think that the IRS technically wants the contributions made before you file, you could conceivably contribute for 2007 after you file your taxes, but before April 15th. In reality, your brokerage has no way of knowing whether or not you&#8217;ve already filed, so they should be willing to code it as 2007 as long as you do so before April 15th.</p>
<p>Of course, this sets up a scenario in which you could potentially file your taxes, get a refund, and then use that money to fund your Roth before the tax deadline (as long as you get your return filed early enough). I&#8217;m not recommending this&#8230; Just pointing out that it might work.</p>
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		<title>By: JB @ GetRichOrDieTrying</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB @ GetRichOrDieTrying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nickel - thanks!  Maybe you can answer one more question... if IRA deadline is the tax deadline... what if I file my taxes in January?  Can I contribute to my 2008 Roth IRA in February?  How does that all work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nickel &#8211; thanks!  Maybe you can answer one more question&#8230; if IRA deadline is the tax deadline&#8230; what if I file my taxes in January?  Can I contribute to my 2008 Roth IRA in February?  How does that all work?</p>
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		<title>By: nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IRA deadline is the tax deadline. Since 401(k) contributions are typically withheld from your paycheck, I would assume that these have to be made by the date of your last check for 2007.

That&#039;s the case with my 403(b) and 457(b) plans -- I don&#039;t have a 401(k), but these fill the same role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IRA deadline is the tax deadline. Since 401(k) contributions are typically withheld from your paycheck, I would assume that these have to be made by the date of your last check for 2007.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the case with my 403(b) and 457(b) plans &#8212; I don&#8217;t have a 401(k), but these fill the same role.</p>
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		<title>By: JB @ GetRichOrDieTrying</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB @ GetRichOrDieTrying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good advice.  I was wondering when the deadlines for funding your Roth IRA and 401K are?  Are they Dec. 31 or Apr. 15?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good advice.  I was wondering when the deadlines for funding your Roth IRA and 401K are?  Are they Dec. 31 or Apr. 15?</p>
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		<title>By: The Saving Freak</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Saving Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are finishing off the contributions to our Roth accounts (the first time we have been able to do this) and are now just looking to cut our tax burden.  It has been amazing how much interest we have earned by not having our income taxes withheld.  We calculate our income tax and then put it into a hight interest savings account.  We then make interest all year long on this money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are finishing off the contributions to our Roth accounts (the first time we have been able to do this) and are now just looking to cut our tax burden.  It has been amazing how much interest we have earned by not having our income taxes withheld.  We calculate our income tax and then put it into a hight interest savings account.  We then make interest all year long on this money.</p>
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