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		<title>By: james tidwell sr</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2008/10/08/fdic-insurance-limits-increased-to-250k/comment-page-1/#comment-130663</link>
		<dc:creator>james tidwell sr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re F.D.I.C.  INSURANCE.
Right now savings accounts are insured by the  FDIC for up to $250,000.--
until December 31, 2009.

What we would like to know is:
  a. Will this be made permanent by the end of the  year?
  b. When will Congress consider this and make a decision on this matter?

The FDIC insurance coverage  has not  increased since 1980 and the raising
to $250,000.-- brings it up to almost the rate of inflation for that  period
of time.

This is a very important issue  for myself  and 55 million people who keep
their retirement funds in banks. We would very much appreciate letting us
know  what is being done about this.

                                 Sincerely
                                 James  T.Tidwell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re F.D.I.C.  INSURANCE.<br />
Right now savings accounts are insured by the  FDIC for up to $250,000.&#8211;<br />
until December 31, 2009.</p>
<p>What we would like to know is:<br />
  a. Will this be made permanent by the end of the  year?<br />
  b. When will Congress consider this and make a decision on this matter?</p>
<p>The FDIC insurance coverage  has not  increased since 1980 and the raising<br />
to $250,000.&#8211; brings it up to almost the rate of inflation for that  period<br />
of time.</p>
<p>This is a very important issue  for myself  and 55 million people who keep<br />
their retirement funds in banks. We would very much appreciate letting us<br />
know  what is being done about this.</p>
<p>                                 Sincerely<br />
                                 James  T.Tidwell</p>
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		<title>By: l.h. Patch</title>
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		<dc:creator>l.h. Patch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOES THE FDIC INSURANCE COVER UP TO 25000.00 IN EACH ACCOUNT AT THE SAME BANK if you have multiple accounts ie. checking, more than one CD etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOES THE FDIC INSURANCE COVER UP TO 25000.00 IN EACH ACCOUNT AT THE SAME BANK if you have multiple accounts ie. checking, more than one CD etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheaplee</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2008/10/08/fdic-insurance-limits-increased-to-250k/comment-page-1/#comment-125911</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheaplee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This limit is a psychological effect only. Investors who are smart that keep their portion of cash in the bank usually spread it to other banks, benefiting from multiple accounts insured by the FDIC. -Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This limit is a psychological effect only. Investors who are smart that keep their portion of cash in the bank usually spread it to other banks, benefiting from multiple accounts insured by the FDIC. -Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the limit for at all any more?  The should just take the limit off, but it should be clear that it is temperary - so that 100k can put back in place after 1 year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the limit for at all any more?  The should just take the limit off, but it should be clear that it is temperary &#8211; so that 100k can put back in place after 1 year.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Holdheide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Holdheide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due to the cost of inflation this was much needed.  In 1980 a $100,000 was ok but with 28 years now past inflation has taken it&#039;s toll.  I&#039;m sure with some time this will pass into law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to the cost of inflation this was much needed.  In 1980 a $100,000 was ok but with 28 years now past inflation has taken it&#8217;s toll.  I&#8217;m sure with some time this will pass into law.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure that this won&#039;t have much of a cost.   I&#039;m assuming something around 99% of accounts have less than $100k in them.   So increasing the limit will only make a marginal difference in the amounts FDIC insures.

I tried to find data on the % of bank accounts that were over the $100k insured limit but I couldn&#039;t find anything comprehensive.   You can look at examples of recently failed banks to get an idea though.

http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08077.html
Silver state bank failed with $1.7 billion in deposits and $20 million was uninsured.   Thats about 1.1% of the total dollar figure.

http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08056.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2008/08/indymac-uninsur.html
When Indymac failed they had $32 billion in deposits.  The FDIC originally estimated $1 billion of it was uninsured but then revised it to $600M.   Thats about 1.9%

So theres 2 example banks with uninsured balances accounting for 1-2% of the whole.   I bet that kind of number would hold across the industry given the number of people that would actually have &gt;$100k in a bank.

Increasing what you cover by 1-2% should increase the cost proportionally I&#039;d assume.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that this won&#8217;t have much of a cost.   I&#8217;m assuming something around 99% of accounts have less than $100k in them.   So increasing the limit will only make a marginal difference in the amounts FDIC insures.</p>
<p>I tried to find data on the % of bank accounts that were over the $100k insured limit but I couldn&#8217;t find anything comprehensive.   You can look at examples of recently failed banks to get an idea though.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08077.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/.....08077.html</a><br />
Silver state bank failed with $1.7 billion in deposits and $20 million was uninsured.   Thats about 1.1% of the total dollar figure.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08056.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/.....08056.html</a><br />
<a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2008/08/indymac-uninsur.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....insur.html</a><br />
When Indymac failed they had $32 billion in deposits.  The FDIC originally estimated $1 billion of it was uninsured but then revised it to $600M.   Thats about 1.9%</p>
<p>So theres 2 example banks with uninsured balances accounting for 1-2% of the whole.   I bet that kind of number would hold across the industry given the number of people that would actually have &gt;$100k in a bank.</p>
<p>Increasing what you cover by 1-2% should increase the cost proportionally I&#8217;d assume.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: TTFK</title>
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		<dc:creator>TTFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone that did their homework, this is both moot and redundant.

Any bank chartered in Massachusetts has coverage under the DIF (Depositors Insurance Fund) which covers ALL deposits in excess of FDIC coverage.

https://www.difxs.com/DIF/Home.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone that did their homework, this is both moot and redundant.</p>
<p>Any bank chartered in Massachusetts has coverage under the DIF (Depositors Insurance Fund) which covers ALL deposits in excess of FDIC coverage.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.difxs.com/DIF/Home.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.difxs.com/DIF/Home.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and just where did the deeply-in-debt Federal Government/FDIC suddenly get the real money to &quot;insure&quot;  everybody for $250K  ??

In any scenario involving widespread bank failures -- the Feds would have to &#039;print&#039; even more funny-money (inflated $$).

A year ago I figured it would take 20-30 years for the U.S. Dollar to be literally worthless -- now it looks like merely 5-10 years, at most.


&quot;Today, economic optimists are buying gold... pessimists are buying rice &amp; beans.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and just where did the deeply-in-debt Federal Government/FDIC suddenly get the real money to &#8220;insure&#8221;  everybody for $250K  ??</p>
<p>In any scenario involving widespread bank failures &#8212; the Feds would have to &#8216;print&#8217; even more funny-money (inflated $$).</p>
<p>A year ago I figured it would take 20-30 years for the U.S. Dollar to be literally worthless &#8212; now it looks like merely 5-10 years, at most.</p>
<p>&#8220;Today, economic optimists are buying gold&#8230; pessimists are buying rice &amp; beans.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know quite a few older people who have several hundred thousand in the bank, and I don&#039;t consider them rich, just retired and conservative.  I also have a friend my age, mid-30s, who just recently did some juggling of cash to get under the current limits - so they have several hundred thousand in cash, too.  It may affect a minority of Americans, but it might be more than you think, many older Americans keep lots of cash in bank accounts and CDs - probably more than they should, but that&#039;s a different discussion altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know quite a few older people who have several hundred thousand in the bank, and I don&#8217;t consider them rich, just retired and conservative.  I also have a friend my age, mid-30s, who just recently did some juggling of cash to get under the current limits &#8211; so they have several hundred thousand in cash, too.  It may affect a minority of Americans, but it might be more than you think, many older Americans keep lots of cash in bank accounts and CDs &#8211; probably more than they should, but that&#8217;s a different discussion altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and your wife can keep more than $1 million insured at one bank.  If you each had another account that is payable on death to the other, thats another $500,000.  More accounts that are payable on death to your kids further increases coverage per beneficiary.

I agree that the increase is more to address confidence than convenience.  In the age of electronic funds transfers between banks.  Keeping hundreds of thousands or even millions insured under the lower limits was not overly complicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and your wife can keep more than $1 million insured at one bank.  If you each had another account that is payable on death to the other, thats another $500,000.  More accounts that are payable on death to your kids further increases coverage per beneficiary.</p>
<p>I agree that the increase is more to address confidence than convenience.  In the age of electronic funds transfers between banks.  Keeping hundreds of thousands or even millions insured under the lower limits was not overly complicated.</p>
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		<title>By: nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than anything, I suspect this move was made to increase overall confidence... As in:

&quot;If they&#039;re willing to guarantee $250k, then my $10/20/50k has gotta be safe, and I&#039;ll just leave it in place rather than freaking out.&quot;

I agree that this change unlikely to have much of a &quot;real&quot; effect on the vast majority of Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than anything, I suspect this move was made to increase overall confidence&#8230; As in:</p>
<p>&#8220;If they&#8217;re willing to guarantee $250k, then my $10/20/50k has gotta be safe, and I&#8217;ll just leave it in place rather than freaking out.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that this change unlikely to have much of a &#8220;real&#8221; effect on the vast majority of Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler @ Dividendmoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler @ Dividendmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Brian.
This increase helps a small minority of Americans...it&#039;s more of a political move than anything substantially helpful for the majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Brian.<br />
This increase helps a small minority of Americans&#8230;it&#8217;s more of a political move than anything substantially helpful for the majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really think this is *that* big of a deal? I&#039;m always reading about how Americans don&#039;t have any savings, so how could this be so useful? Who really has more than $400k in cash sitting around (current possible FDIC coverage) thinking, &quot;great now I can deposit the rest of my cash in the bank and not worry that I can lose it&quot;. Am I off the wall for thinking this? This issue has been &quot;bothering&quot; me lately, so thanks for posting about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really think this is *that* big of a deal? I&#8217;m always reading about how Americans don&#8217;t have any savings, so how could this be so useful? Who really has more than $400k in cash sitting around (current possible FDIC coverage) thinking, &#8220;great now I can deposit the rest of my cash in the bank and not worry that I can lose it&#8221;. Am I off the wall for thinking this? This issue has been &#8220;bothering&#8221; me lately, so thanks for posting about it.</p>
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		<title>By: nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it sounds like it&#039;s essentially being paid for by future tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it sounds like it&#8217;s essentially being paid for by future tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Banjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The FDIC isn’t being allowed to increase their rates to offset the additional coverage. Rather, they’ll have to borrow from the Treasury to cover losses due to the higher limits.&quot;

In other words, it&#039;s not based on any real new value, savings, premiums or reinsurance. It&#039;s just the pre-socialization of future financial calamities. If this has any effect at all it should be to just nick the dollar a bit further. That&#039;s what is really backing this - the future soundness of our currency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The FDIC isn’t being allowed to increase their rates to offset the additional coverage. Rather, they’ll have to borrow from the Treasury to cover losses due to the higher limits.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, it&#8217;s not based on any real new value, savings, premiums or reinsurance. It&#8217;s just the pre-socialization of future financial calamities. If this has any effect at all it should be to just nick the dollar a bit further. That&#8217;s what is really backing this &#8211; the future soundness of our currency.</p>
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