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	<title>Comments on: Black Friday Retail Sales: Up 3% Compared to 2007</title>
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		<title>By: Justin @ FixThePig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin @ FixThePig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The increase in sales doesn&#039;t surprise me at all, in fact I predicted that we would see an increase.  I think that many people who have never bothered to battle the massive crowds and shop on Black Friday decided to try and make their buck stretch a little further this year.
More then ever people are looking for ways to make their dollar go further and the deep discounts get them out.
I&#039;m willing to bet that profits on the the sales during Black Friday were very skinny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The increase in sales doesn&#8217;t surprise me at all, in fact I predicted that we would see an increase.  I think that many people who have never bothered to battle the massive crowds and shop on Black Friday decided to try and make their buck stretch a little further this year.<br />
More then ever people are looking for ways to make their dollar go further and the deep discounts get them out.<br />
I&#8217;m willing to bet that profits on the the sales during Black Friday were very skinny.</p>
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		<title>By: SimplyForties</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimplyForties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am definitely downsizing this Christmas.  I must say that I&#039;m a lot more clever with my gifts during the lean years, so maybe it&#039;s a good thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely downsizing this Christmas.  I must say that I&#8217;m a lot more clever with my gifts during the lean years, so maybe it&#8217;s a good thing!</p>
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		<title>By: mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... Black Friday retail sales increased 3% over last year’s levels.  While this was the smallest year-over-year gain since 2005, it was still a gain..&quot;



.... that &#039;story&#039; is repeated everywhere in the American media -- but the source of that data is biased and unreliable.
The media blindly accepts these numbers as gospel.


But that 3% number doesn&#039;t come from actual sales data from retailers -- but merely from an e-mailed &quot;survey&quot; of  some shoppers... who &#039;self-report&#039; their spending.  The annual survey is sponsored by a big-retailer public-relations firm (National Retail Federation), which is far from unbiased... and has a poor record of accurately forecasting Xmas sales. There are huge problems with the methodology used to generate those NRF annual XMAS sales figures.

The &quot;Comscore&quot; company offers a much better data source... relying on actual online sales numbers from retailers.
Comscore data shows barely a 1% increase in online sales this year over last.  In a couple of days,

 Master Card will issue its &quot;ShopperPulse&quot; data -- an actual measurement of what people spent (on their MC Credit Card) and has proven to be more reliable than either foot traffic, surveys and other biased sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; Black Friday retail sales increased 3% over last year’s levels.  While this was the smallest year-over-year gain since 2005, it was still a gain..&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;. that &#8217;story&#8217; is repeated everywhere in the American media &#8212; but the source of that data is biased and unreliable.<br />
The media blindly accepts these numbers as gospel.</p>
<p>But that 3% number doesn&#8217;t come from actual sales data from retailers &#8212; but merely from an e-mailed &#8220;survey&#8221; of  some shoppers&#8230; who &#8217;self-report&#8217; their spending.  The annual survey is sponsored by a big-retailer public-relations firm (National Retail Federation), which is far from unbiased&#8230; and has a poor record of accurately forecasting Xmas sales. There are huge problems with the methodology used to generate those NRF annual XMAS sales figures.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Comscore&#8221; company offers a much better data source&#8230; relying on actual online sales numbers from retailers.<br />
Comscore data shows barely a 1% increase in online sales this year over last.  In a couple of days,</p>
<p> Master Card will issue its &#8220;ShopperPulse&#8221; data &#8212; an actual measurement of what people spent (on their MC Credit Card) and has proven to be more reliable than either foot traffic, surveys and other biased sources.</p>
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		<title>By: bobbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not shop on Black Friday. I do not want to get caught up in the madness. I am definitely cutting back and saving more. Homemade gifts are an excellent way to show you care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not shop on Black Friday. I do not want to get caught up in the madness. I am definitely cutting back and saving more. Homemade gifts are an excellent way to show you care.</p>
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		<title>By: ~Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>~Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in the accounting office at a major retail store and our sales for black friday 2007 were 326k and this year they were 515k for the day. We attribute this to two things..
1. People who usually shop at the higher end stores came to our store this year
2. There was an obviously larger crowd of internationals that were shopping (New refugees, tourists, etc)

Personally for myself I bought over half of my presents from the thrift stores or from ebay (almost new). And I spent about 60% less this year than last year - yeah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in the accounting office at a major retail store and our sales for black friday 2007 were 326k and this year they were 515k for the day. We attribute this to two things..<br />
1. People who usually shop at the higher end stores came to our store this year<br />
2. There was an obviously larger crowd of internationals that were shopping (New refugees, tourists, etc)</p>
<p>Personally for myself I bought over half of my presents from the thrift stores or from ebay (almost new). And I spent about 60% less this year than last year &#8211; yeah!</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am making an effort to cut back, but more importantly to save ahead for the expenses of the Holidays and to spread out the expense over a greater time, looking for deals and buying presents as early as October this year.

Its pretty much a 1 person effort, my husband seems to be on track for doing his business as usual... waiting till we are days away from leaving town and ordering a bunch of stuff online, but he could surprise me.

Definitely no spending this year on holiday decor, or buying gifts for anyone not family or very closest friends.

We avoided Black Friday sales (even online), but I am glad to hear that it was not down overall, any positive news can only help right? Rightfully overshadowed by the death of the Wal-mart employee in NY, but in the long run it might prevent spenders from clamping down later on. Back to the crowd mentality comment on the other article, this could apply to holiday spending too. If people think that others are spending equal or more on the holidays as in years past, then it must be ok for them to do that too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am making an effort to cut back, but more importantly to save ahead for the expenses of the Holidays and to spread out the expense over a greater time, looking for deals and buying presents as early as October this year.</p>
<p>Its pretty much a 1 person effort, my husband seems to be on track for doing his business as usual&#8230; waiting till we are days away from leaving town and ordering a bunch of stuff online, but he could surprise me.</p>
<p>Definitely no spending this year on holiday decor, or buying gifts for anyone not family or very closest friends.</p>
<p>We avoided Black Friday sales (even online), but I am glad to hear that it was not down overall, any positive news can only help right? Rightfully overshadowed by the death of the Wal-mart employee in NY, but in the long run it might prevent spenders from clamping down later on. Back to the crowd mentality comment on the other article, this could apply to holiday spending too. If people think that others are spending equal or more on the holidays as in years past, then it must be ok for them to do that too.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rufus--

Pick up ANY newspaper and show me an article detailing how many planes &lt;i&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; crash yesterday, or how many gas stations &lt;i&gt;weren&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; robbed yesterday.  You won&#039;t find it, because that sort of good news doesn&#039;t sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rufus&#8211;</p>
<p>Pick up ANY newspaper and show me an article detailing how many planes <i>didn&#8217;t</i> crash yesterday, or how many gas stations <i>weren&#8217;t</i> robbed yesterday.  You won&#8217;t find it, because that sort of good news doesn&#8217;t sell.</p>
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		<title>By: WiseMoneyMatters</title>
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		<dc:creator>WiseMoneyMatters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually planning on spending quite a bit more this year than I have in the past. I&#039;ve got a lot more income this year and over the past few years I haven&#039;t been able to give many gifts to friends and family so I&#039;m making up for it this year.

though I didn&#039;t even shop on Black Friday. I slept in. I did however get some good &quot;open box&quot; deals on returns from the few days after Black Friday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually planning on spending quite a bit more this year than I have in the past. I&#8217;ve got a lot more income this year and over the past few years I haven&#8217;t been able to give many gifts to friends and family so I&#8217;m making up for it this year.</p>
<p>though I didn&#8217;t even shop on Black Friday. I slept in. I did however get some good &#8220;open box&#8221; deals on returns from the few days after Black Friday.</p>
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		<title>By: rufusmcbufus</title>
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		<dc:creator>rufusmcbufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, seriously? Good news doesn&#039;t sell? Let&#039;s see here. Market crooners on CNBC have lulled everyone for years and years with &quot;buy and hold for the long term&quot;, infinitely expanding economy nonsense. Every last bit of is has been happy-talk. The National Association of Realtors...pure Sunny Jim sales non-speak for years and years and years that inflated a huge bubble on the premise that &quot;housing prices never go down&quot;. Pollyanna sells and sells big...REALLY BIG. The last year of &quot;doom and gloom&quot; is just reality exerting itself at long last. I, for one, think this is long overdue.
-rufusmcbufus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, seriously? Good news doesn&#8217;t sell? Let&#8217;s see here. Market crooners on CNBC have lulled everyone for years and years with &#8220;buy and hold for the long term&#8221;, infinitely expanding economy nonsense. Every last bit of is has been happy-talk. The National Association of Realtors&#8230;pure Sunny Jim sales non-speak for years and years and years that inflated a huge bubble on the premise that &#8220;housing prices never go down&#8221;. Pollyanna sells and sells big&#8230;REALLY BIG. The last year of &#8220;doom and gloom&#8221; is just reality exerting itself at long last. I, for one, think this is long overdue.<br />
-rufusmcbufus</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That surprises me a bit, but it was said that the stores would do some great sales.  I didn&#039;t do any black friday shopping, my husband barely gets any work.  We are definitely cutting back big time this christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That surprises me a bit, but it was said that the stores would do some great sales.  I didn&#8217;t do any black friday shopping, my husband barely gets any work.  We are definitely cutting back big time this christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an odd Christmas for me cause we&#039;re moving 500 miles on 12/19.  So Christmas is pretty much shot.  We&#039;ve already bought a house and of course have all the expenses that go with a big move.  So I&#039;ll be cutting back spending this year on gifts, but at the same time I&#039;m shelling out money for other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an odd Christmas for me cause we&#8217;re moving 500 miles on 12/19.  So Christmas is pretty much shot.  We&#8217;ve already bought a house and of course have all the expenses that go with a big move.  So I&#8217;ll be cutting back spending this year on gifts, but at the same time I&#8217;m shelling out money for other things.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1- Yes, the truth is not near as bad as what has been reported.  Bad news sells, terrible news sells even better, and good news doesn&#039;t sell at all.

2- Yes, I am cutting back.  Seeing as I&#039;m unemployed, the only gifts I&#039;m buying this year are for my nieces &amp; nephews (1 small thing each, some of which have already been purchased), and for my son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1- Yes, the truth is not near as bad as what has been reported.  Bad news sells, terrible news sells even better, and good news doesn&#8217;t sell at all.</p>
<p>2- Yes, I am cutting back.  Seeing as I&#8217;m unemployed, the only gifts I&#8217;m buying this year are for my nieces &amp; nephews (1 small thing each, some of which have already been purchased), and for my son.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some guy got trampled at a Wal-Mart... it&#039;s insanity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some guy got trampled at a Wal-Mart&#8230; it&#8217;s insanity!</p>
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