Comments on: What are the FICA Taxes?

By: Sandy

Sandy — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:31:18 +0000

Every single one of these oafs that rant against the government are the first to stand in line demanding they get the disability benefit owed to them — even if they made minimum wage their whole life and, between medicare and disability, will receive 100x more than they paid.

By: Stef Elington

Stef Elington — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:50:36 +0000

Good luck in finding anything in the Federal Tax code
that would make a guy selling hot dogs in Boston Mass liable – You become liable when you open a bank account
with a Federal tax ID – fill out forms etc…
The government can only tax a privilaged activity like
selling tobacco or beer-(thats in the constitution)
Congress was never granted the power to tax the wages
and earnings of state citizens.
Screw the Irs, The UN, the Federal Reserve and the Queen of England.

By: CriticalThinker

CriticalThinker — Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:34:28 +0000

While I’m sure the Dave Champion book is entertaining anger fodder, I’d recommend reading this before deciding not to “volunteer” to pay your taxes:
http://www.irs.gov/taxpros/art.....c224375578

By: Stef Elington

Stef Elington — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:56:02 +0000

Furthermore none of the income tax BS ever applied to
the vast majority of people living and working in
the 50 states – 99% plus – read the tax code you wont
find any part that makes you liable- Non resident aliens and their withholding agents are liable but not
you–read the tax code and then read Income Tax: Shattering the myths by Dave Champion.

By: Stef Elington

Stef Elington — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:38:00 +0000

FICA is not Social Security, its just another income
Tax – ponzi scheme – Read Income Tax: Shattering the myths by Dave Champion

By: Al Oglethorpe

Al Oglethorpe — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:34:08 +0000

My wife works in Afghanistan for civilian contractor. The first 91,400.00 is exempt of fed. income tax. Does that also include FICA-OASDI & FICA-HI tax?

By: Abe Lincoln

Abe Lincoln — Tue, 18 May 2010 17:32:54 +0000

You are also exempt from this if you are Amish. Seriously. It is against that religion to pay into any insurance program because it is an attempt to deny God’s will.

By: Wayners

Wayners — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:31:45 +0000

The article leaves out another way to get out of FICA entirely. If you can live entirely on Capital Gains and Dividends from buying and selling just about any asset, you don’t have to pay FICA at all. Only people that work JOBS pay FICA. The real rich (idle rich) don’t work JOBS and don’t pay in. Instead they collect assets, collect lease money, and buy and sell assets and don’t pay a dime.

By: Bevy

Bevy — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:42:13 +0000

Still the rich get richer while the poor get poorer! No way out. We live in America where the Gov. rules.

By: Diana

Diana — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:59:08 +0000

My son attended a state college in MA. and also worked for the same college for two semesters, they did not take out these taxes and when I did his taxes I was unaware of this exemption and figured he owed taxes because they did not take them out, can he file an amendment to get his money back????

By: samantha

samantha — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:43:22 +0000

I have a question about FICA and FICA-OASDI taxes. I am a graduate student, but working as an intern for a county (government). I am wondering if I am excempted for the above two tax deds. They always show up in my paycheck ?

By: BillMcg

BillMcg — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:11:22 +0000

What if you decide to take reduced benefits at 62 but continue to work… do you still pay into FICA-OASDI? It would seem nuts since you would get a rebate on those payments when you do you taxes!

By: Tung

Tung — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:58:14 +0000

You can also avoid that by using your health spending acccount and/or dependant care. So on top of your tax rate, you’re saving an additional 7.65% off your taxes. Please use your spending account if you have it, especially the dependant care if you haev kids in day care!!!

By: Eric J. Nisall

Eric J. Nisall — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:29:18 +0000

Also remember that even though you may be self-employed, the same limits apply to you as well.

By: SimplyForties

SimplyForties — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:17:27 +0000

Thanks for this information. My son just happens to be a full-time college student working at his college. I’ve passed the tip on to him.

Unfortunately, as a self-employed person, I am aware of how much I pay, but I’m glad he’s getting a break!

By: nickel

nickel — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:40:50 +0000

doug: Tomato, tomahto. It’s part of your total compensation, the same as the employer contribution to things like health benefits. In fact, you could further argue that the employee is paying their own share of the electric bill, rent, etc., since those sorts expenses arguably keep the employer from paying the employee a higher salary. If it makes you feel better to say it your way then, by all means, do so. The point here is that there’s an “invisible” contribution that doesn’t come out of your stated salary (or wages, as the case may be), but… If you’re self-employed, then you need to explicitly account for that additional amount out of the money that you’re taking in.

By: doug

doug — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:08:40 +0000

‘These taxes are levied on both the employee and employer so, for every dollar taken from your paycheck, your employer is also paying a dollar. ‘

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No, the employee pays ALL that payroll tax (15.3%).

Employer pays none of it, but merely with-holds that 15.3% from the workers paycheck… and hands it directly to the government taxman.

An employer hiring an employee always calculates how much that new employee is gonna cost in total compensation. If the taxman demands 7.65% from the employer for each employee, the employer simply reduces the direct pay offered to the employee in hiring & promotions … by 7.65%. The worker never sees that money/tax — and is deceived in believing his employer is generously paying half his FICA/Medicare taxes.

It’s pure FlimFlam.

This issue comes up here periodically… thought we brought the truth to light previously ??

By: Craig

Craig — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:12:39 +0000

I always just look at it every pay check and see how much money is being taken out. Never had a real understanding behind it. Thanks for clarifying that in a simple manner for me and everyone.

By: thomas

thomas — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:51:09 +0000

I believe I paid FICA when in the military. That’s a gov’t job.

I never noticed the designation OASDIA until I saw it on my wife’s pay stub (she’s a teacher).

Wouldn’t it be great to check a box that said “no thanks” and get to keep that money to invest on your own?

By: nickel

nickel — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:19:38 +0000

philip: If you work over the summer and don’t take classes, you’re not exempt during that time period. Maybe your one aberrant check happened during a period when you weren’t taking classes?

By: philip

philip — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:51:38 +0000

Thanks for the explanation, I was attending and working at a university and saw that it was charged on one paycheck for some reason, but then never again so I did not worry about it. I just knew that generally I never paid all of it and my check was a little better each week.

I actually thought that it was all university employees, not just ones that are students also, now I won’t sound like an idiot when talking to someone else about this.

By: Erich

Erich — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:56:22 +0000

Another exception to FICA is working for the government. Not all government workers mind you, but some. I work for the state of Illinois, and I pay 8% of my wage into a retirement plan set up for state workers. This is not optional, but is in lieu of FICA and is a better deal (IMO).

Regards,
Erich

By: Eric J. Nisall

Eric J. Nisall — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:24:04 +0000

Very thorough and informative explanation, especially pointing out the student/university employment relationship-I don’t think it is something that is widely known. One thing to add: cafeteria/Sec 125 plans are one way of reducing the tax liability since contributions to these plans are made pre-tax.