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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/02/12/refundable-vs-non-refundable-income-tax-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-133401</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister-in-law just bought a house for about $50,000.  She only makes about $35,000/year.  Would she still get 10% of the value as a refund, or would she get the whole 8,000 due to her low incom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister-in-law just bought a house for about $50,000.  She only makes about $35,000/year.  Would she still get 10% of the value as a refund, or would she get the whole 8,000 due to her low incom?</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/02/12/refundable-vs-non-refundable-income-tax-credits/comment-page-1/#comment-129562</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay after reading all of this I have a huge question. I bought my house on Jan 16th, 2009. I already filed my taxes back in january when the credit was 7500 and had to be repaid over 15 years. Now I am hearing that it is 8000 and does NOT need to be repaid. Am i stuck repaying my original plan or am i not obligated to pay that back now? So very confused, please help. Thanks.

-Corey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay after reading all of this I have a huge question. I bought my house on Jan 16th, 2009. I already filed my taxes back in january when the credit was 7500 and had to be repaid over 15 years. Now I am hearing that it is 8000 and does NOT need to be repaid. Am i stuck repaying my original plan or am i not obligated to pay that back now? So very confused, please help. Thanks.</p>
<p>-Corey</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I got a 3500 refund for 2008, and bought a house and qualified, I would get the 8,000 on top of my usual 3,500? This seems to good to be true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I got a 3500 refund for 2008, and bought a house and qualified, I would get the 8,000 on top of my usual 3,500? This seems to good to be true?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this same article and doubted their math as well (eventually leading me to this blog).  Brad, your examples look correct, I too think CNN messed up.

Looking back at the article it appears they&#039;ve corrected the scenarios, but not the &quot;answer.&quot;  It should now read:

&quot;The short answer? Yes, Billings would get back the $8,000 plus what he&#039;d overpaid. The long answer? Yes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this same article and doubted their math as well (eventually leading me to this blog).  Brad, your examples look correct, I too think CNN messed up.</p>
<p>Looking back at the article it appears they&#8217;ve corrected the scenarios, but not the &#8220;answer.&#8221;  It should now read:</p>
<p>&#8220;The short answer? Yes, Billings would get back the $8,000 plus what he&#8217;d overpaid. The long answer? Yes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kosmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>kosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad - I saw the same article on CNN Money (http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/13/real_estate/homebuyer_tax_credit_finalized/index.htm?cnn=yes) and I had to laugh.

If it worked the way CNN suggests, it would penalize people who withheld a lot in taxes.  Let&#039;s say you and I both have 10K in tax liability.  You have 10K withheld ($0 refund), and I have 17,995 withheld (i.e. a $7995 refund).

Under CNN Money&#039;s scheme, we would both get a 8K refund ... $8000 in &quot;new money&quot; for you and $5 in &quot;new money&quot; for me ... in spite of the fact that our tax situation (aside from withholding) is identical.  Essentially, I gave the government an interest-free loan during the year, and I would be penalized for it.  Huh?

I have had a couple of tax classes (I was an accounting major in college) and I would be shocked to see something this crazy implemented.

It&#039;s safe to say that CNN Money is just wrong.  Very disturbing to see a mistake of that magnitude ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad &#8211; I saw the same article on CNN Money (<a href="http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/13/real_estate/homebuyer_tax_credit_finalized/index.htm?cnn=yes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/1.....tm?cnn=yes</a>) and I had to laugh.</p>
<p>If it worked the way CNN suggests, it would penalize people who withheld a lot in taxes.  Let&#8217;s say you and I both have 10K in tax liability.  You have 10K withheld ($0 refund), and I have 17,995 withheld (i.e. a $7995 refund).</p>
<p>Under CNN Money&#8217;s scheme, we would both get a 8K refund &#8230; $8000 in &#8220;new money&#8221; for you and $5 in &#8220;new money&#8221; for me &#8230; in spite of the fact that our tax situation (aside from withholding) is identical.  Essentially, I gave the government an interest-free loan during the year, and I would be penalized for it.  Huh?</p>
<p>I have had a couple of tax classes (I was an accounting major in college) and I would be shocked to see something this crazy implemented.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s safe to say that CNN Money is just wrong.  Very disturbing to see a mistake of that magnitude &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brad: Your logic sounds correct. An $8k refundable credit should turn that $6k tax liability into a -$2k liability (in other words, a $2k net gain for you). Thus, you should get back everything you paid in &lt;i&gt;plus&lt;/i&gt; $2k. I just dug around on CNN and found something similar to what you describe, and it looks like the author is incorrect. Keep in mind that I&#039;m not a tax pro, but I &lt;i&gt;am&lt;/i&gt; pretty good at math. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brad: Your logic sounds correct. An $8k refundable credit should turn that $6k tax liability into a -$2k liability (in other words, a $2k net gain for you). Thus, you should get back everything you paid in <i>plus</i> $2k. I just dug around on CNN and found something similar to what you describe, and it looks like the author is incorrect. Keep in mind that I&#8217;m not a tax pro, but I <i>am</i> pretty good at math. <img src='http://www.fivecentnickel.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep reading all sorts of different versions of and interpretations of these refundable tax credits, and I&#039;m hoping fivecent nickel can put this one to rest like usual.   

I qualify for the $8000 first time homebuyer tax credit.  I plan on applying this to my 2008 taxes.  I came up with 2 obvious scenarios.  I owe the Govt or I get a refund. I&#039;ll say my Federal Tax liability is $6,000 for the year.  

Scenario 1: I have $5,500 in taxes withheld from my paycheck by my employer (thus, I would owe $500).  I apply the $8,000 tax credit and now I receive a $7,500 refund.  

Scenario 2: I have $6,600 in taxes withheld from my paycheck from my employer (thus, I would get a $600 refund).  I apply the $8,000 tax credit and now my refund is $8,600.  

Is this correct logic?  A CNN article explained the 2nd scenario as I would only be getting an $8,000 refund instead of $8,600.  How could that be?  The Tax credit would only then be basically worth $7,400 just because my employer withheld more money in scenario 2 as compared to 1.  Or, is the CNN Writer just incorrect?

Thanks in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep reading all sorts of different versions of and interpretations of these refundable tax credits, and I&#8217;m hoping fivecent nickel can put this one to rest like usual.   </p>
<p>I qualify for the $8000 first time homebuyer tax credit.  I plan on applying this to my 2008 taxes.  I came up with 2 obvious scenarios.  I owe the Govt or I get a refund. I&#8217;ll say my Federal Tax liability is $6,000 for the year.  </p>
<p>Scenario 1: I have $5,500 in taxes withheld from my paycheck by my employer (thus, I would owe $500).  I apply the $8,000 tax credit and now I receive a $7,500 refund.  </p>
<p>Scenario 2: I have $6,600 in taxes withheld from my paycheck from my employer (thus, I would get a $600 refund).  I apply the $8,000 tax credit and now my refund is $8,600.  </p>
<p>Is this correct logic?  A CNN article explained the 2nd scenario as I would only be getting an $8,000 refund instead of $8,600.  How could that be?  The Tax credit would only then be basically worth $7,400 just because my employer withheld more money in scenario 2 as compared to 1.  Or, is the CNN Writer just incorrect?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: SP</title>
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		<dc:creator>SP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least you have the option to use the credit. I bought my home 3 months to early, so consider yourself lucky:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least you have the option to use the credit. I bought my home 3 months to early, so consider yourself lucky:)</p>
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		<title>By: tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel a little cheated i qualified for the $7500 tax credit but then weeks later another tax credit is approved for $500 dollars more an does not have to be repaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel a little cheated i qualified for the $7500 tax credit but then weeks later another tax credit is approved for $500 dollars more an does not have to be repaid.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be illegal for them to call it a tax credit. If you have to pay it back, IT IS CALLED A LOAN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be illegal for them to call it a tax credit. If you have to pay it back, IT IS CALLED A LOAN!</p>
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