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		<title>By: JESS</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/03/25/lending-money-to-family-and-friends-gpt/comment-page-1/#comment-135641</link>
		<dc:creator>JESS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an existing problem with my husband and I don&#039;t know what to do.  Everything I&#039;ve read on this page I&#039;ve done...still he doesn&#039;t get it.    His sister borrows money often, $200.00 - $500.00 biweekly and always pays back, not in the same manner but does.  She has been married 17 yrs till this day has not made any kind of investments, such as a home. She recently moved in with her mother with her husband and two children. I don&#039;t know what else to do to stop the habit.  PLEASE HELP!!   My husband&#039;s answer is &quot;she is my sister I will always help my family, deal with it&quot;.  

Am I wrong?? I am not rich, we live with little savings in the bank that easily can be gone in an emergency. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an existing problem with my husband and I don&#8217;t know what to do.  Everything I&#8217;ve read on this page I&#8217;ve done&#8230;still he doesn&#8217;t get it.    His sister borrows money often, $200.00 &#8211; $500.00 biweekly and always pays back, not in the same manner but does.  She has been married 17 yrs till this day has not made any kind of investments, such as a home. She recently moved in with her mother with her husband and two children. I don&#8217;t know what else to do to stop the habit.  PLEASE HELP!!   My husband&#8217;s answer is &#8220;she is my sister I will always help my family, deal with it&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Am I wrong?? I am not rich, we live with little savings in the bank that easily can be gone in an emergency. </p>
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		<title>By: caroline humber</title>
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		<dc:creator>caroline humber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have now friends i&#039;ve tried three time to kill myself this year i need help phone me on 07797838155 please</description>
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		<title>By: caroline humber</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/03/25/lending-money-to-family-and-friends-gpt/comment-page-1/#comment-135039</link>
		<dc:creator>caroline humber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m the kind of person i will alway give if i have it this year has been bad for me i have no money and my health has in very bad and still is i would like to give my kids everythink and have a good life im not good at writhing  things down but i would be able to talk to anyone that would help me and my family i will like to</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m the kind of person i will alway give if i have it this year has been bad for me i have no money and my health has in very bad and still is i would like to give my kids everythink and have a good life im not good at writhing  things down but i would be able to talk to anyone that would help me and my family i will like to</p>
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		<title>By: dePriest</title>
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		<dc:creator>dePriest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I worked hard and saved...&quot;  Lynn, that&#039;s why you shouldn&#039;t feel guilty about not loaning any money to anyone, ever.  Even if it&#039;s a dire emergency,  you still need to be careful - if you can&#039;t afford to lose it, don&#039;t loan it.  You have every right to use your money as you see fit.  Sure, some people have a harder time than others in this life, but those people have no right to expect you to give your hard-earned money to them!  As I wrote earlier, my husband and I have loaned (I use the term loosely) our son $20,000 or more and have received $2000 of it back, if that.  Our son is, of course, much younger than we and has his whole working life to make that money.  My husband and I could have used that money for our retirement.  Instead, my husband, who is not in the best of health, has to work a part-time job just so we can have enough money for him to retire.  I would work except for extreme physical limitations.  Your children&#039;s education and your and your husband&#039;s retirement and other needs come before anyone else&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;I worked hard and saved&#8230;&#8221;  Lynn, that&#8217;s why you shouldn&#8217;t feel guilty about not loaning any money to anyone, ever.  Even if it&#8217;s a dire emergency,  you still need to be careful &#8211; if you can&#8217;t afford to lose it, don&#8217;t loan it.  You have every right to use your money as you see fit.  Sure, some people have a harder time than others in this life, but those people have no right to expect you to give your hard-earned money to them!  As I wrote earlier, my husband and I have loaned (I use the term loosely) our son $20,000 or more and have received $2000 of it back, if that.  Our son is, of course, much younger than we and has his whole working life to make that money.  My husband and I could have used that money for our retirement.  Instead, my husband, who is not in the best of health, has to work a part-time job just so we can have enough money for him to retire.  I would work except for extreme physical limitations.  Your children&#8217;s education and your and your husband&#8217;s retirement and other needs come before anyone else&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/03/25/lending-money-to-family-and-friends-gpt/comment-page-1/#comment-131066</link>
		<dc:creator>lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Lynn again.  A couple of weeks after I turned down my husband&#039;s niece and sister&#039;s request to borrow $100,000 to buy a house, today a really close coworker of mine asked me to borrow $150,000 for buying a house.  She said the house requires all cash offer and I am the only source that she can think of that has that much money. I immediately said no I don&#039;t have that much money and I can tell she is upset. Am I out of my mind or these people are?  My brother recently also asked for $10,000 from me for starting a new business, which I gave to him. I never expect to see that money again. Why people keeps asking me for money.  My money did not fly down from the sky, I worked hard and saved every penny of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Lynn again.  A couple of weeks after I turned down my husband&#8217;s niece and sister&#8217;s request to borrow $100,000 to buy a house, today a really close coworker of mine asked me to borrow $150,000 for buying a house.  She said the house requires all cash offer and I am the only source that she can think of that has that much money. I immediately said no I don&#8217;t have that much money and I can tell she is upset. Am I out of my mind or these people are?  My brother recently also asked for $10,000 from me for starting a new business, which I gave to him. I never expect to see that money again. Why people keeps asking me for money.  My money did not fly down from the sky, I worked hard and saved every penny of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/03/25/lending-money-to-family-and-friends-gpt/comment-page-1/#comment-131007</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband&#039;s 23 year old neice was trying to buy a $500,000 house.  Since she did not have a job and can barely support herself, she asked her mom (my husband&#039;s sister) for the entire $500,000.  Her mom, who spoiled her all her life, agreeed to give her $400,000, but asked us to chip in $100,000. I told her we do not have that much money.  My husband&#039;s sister said &quot;don&#039;t lie, I know you have the money.&quot; She then did a detailed financial analysis with us (how many years we worked, how much we make each year and how much we spend each year).  Based on her calculation, she believed that we had at least $300,000 in bank. I did not dispute and just I cannot loan(give) her daughter $100,000 as we still have 3 young children and we need to save for their college fund and our own retirement.  Instead, we wrote her a $1,000 check (which she cashed) and said it was a gift. The relationship went sour.  Both my husband&#039;s sister and niece resent us and never call us again. Even my husband&#039;s mom is upset that we did not loan some money to his niece. It is really hard to handle thse types of situation and I don&#039;t know how we could have handled it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband&#8217;s 23 year old neice was trying to buy a $500,000 house.  Since she did not have a job and can barely support herself, she asked her mom (my husband&#8217;s sister) for the entire $500,000.  Her mom, who spoiled her all her life, agreeed to give her $400,000, but asked us to chip in $100,000. I told her we do not have that much money.  My husband&#8217;s sister said &#8220;don&#8217;t lie, I know you have the money.&#8221; She then did a detailed financial analysis with us (how many years we worked, how much we make each year and how much we spend each year).  Based on her calculation, she believed that we had at least $300,000 in bank. I did not dispute and just I cannot loan(give) her daughter $100,000 as we still have 3 young children and we need to save for their college fund and our own retirement.  Instead, we wrote her a $1,000 check (which she cashed) and said it was a gift. The relationship went sour.  Both my husband&#8217;s sister and niece resent us and never call us again. Even my husband&#8217;s mom is upset that we did not loan some money to his niece. It is really hard to handle thse types of situation and I don&#8217;t know how we could have handled it better.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never co-signed a loan for a friend....but my parents co-signed for my first car loan. Of course, I was 17 at the time....but it took a lot of convincing. In all, I will have to say that I have never had good experiences with lending friends money...for some reason it never comes back. So in addition to having to constantly nag your friends....your friendship takes a beating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never co-signed a loan for a friend&#8230;.but my parents co-signed for my first car loan. Of course, I was 17 at the time&#8230;.but it took a lot of convincing. In all, I will have to say that I have never had good experiences with lending friends money&#8230;for some reason it never comes back. So in addition to having to constantly nag your friends&#8230;.your friendship takes a beating.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone here ever tried Virgin Money? I never have, but it seems like it may help out in a situation where you loan money to family and friends. I&#039;m very curious if anyone has had a good/bad experience with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone here ever tried Virgin Money? I never have, but it seems like it may help out in a situation where you loan money to family and friends. I&#8217;m very curious if anyone has had a good/bad experience with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never cosign, front the money yourself.

Never loan what you can not walk away from.

Put everything in writing. This is not for a lawsuit, but so everyone is clear on the terms.

If the issue is financial distress, discuss how to avoid it again.

Take a honest hard look and determine if your actions are helping or enabling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never cosign, front the money yourself.</p>
<p>Never loan what you can not walk away from.</p>
<p>Put everything in writing. This is not for a lawsuit, but so everyone is clear on the terms.</p>
<p>If the issue is financial distress, discuss how to avoid it again.</p>
<p>Take a honest hard look and determine if your actions are helping or enabling.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just made a loan to my brother..already regretting it.  But if he doesn&#039;t follow through on it all, it will be a Christmas gift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just made a loan to my brother..already regretting it.  But if he doesn&#8217;t follow through on it all, it will be a Christmas gift.</p>
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		<title>By: dePriest</title>
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		<dc:creator>dePriest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do lend money to a friend or relative and they ask for another loan before they&#039;ve repaid the first, don&#039;t do it.  My eldest son owes my husband and me approximately $20,000 because of job loss years ago.  He&#039;s only paid about $2000 of his original debt.  This is $20,000 we could have used toward our retirement.  We no longer give him cash for anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do lend money to a friend or relative and they ask for another loan before they&#8217;ve repaid the first, don&#8217;t do it.  My eldest son owes my husband and me approximately $20,000 because of job loss years ago.  He&#8217;s only paid about $2000 of his original debt.  This is $20,000 we could have used toward our retirement.  We no longer give him cash for anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor @ Financial Nut</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/03/25/lending-money-to-family-and-friends-gpt/comment-page-1/#comment-130402</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor @ Financial Nut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to do my best to stay away from having to lend money to people that are close to me. That just causes all sorts of problems! 

Have charity. Make sure you do it if you can. But be careful because something like this can seriously damage relationships long-term. And if you can&#039;t do it, don&#039;t! Just don&#039;t! Don&#039;t put yourself in poor position if you really can&#039;t help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to do my best to stay away from having to lend money to people that are close to me. That just causes all sorts of problems! </p>
<p>Have charity. Make sure you do it if you can. But be careful because something like this can seriously damage relationships long-term. And if you can&#8217;t do it, don&#8217;t! Just don&#8217;t! Don&#8217;t put yourself in poor position if you really can&#8217;t help.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to the IRS website.  In the search box on the top right type in AFR.  This stands for Applicable Federal Rates.  Then click on the first one.  You would next choose the one for the month the loan is/was made.  Ex Apr 2009. 
Then choose the period that goes with the loan term. Short-term, mid-term or long-term.  
There is no imputed interest calculation for loans totaling $10,000 or less if the loan is not directly attributable to purchase of income producing assets.
Gift loans between individualss where the total outstanding in $100k or less no imputed interest will be charged if the borrower&#039;s annual net investment income is less than $1k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to the IRS website.  In the search box on the top right type in AFR.  This stands for Applicable Federal Rates.  Then click on the first one.  You would next choose the one for the month the loan is/was made.  Ex Apr 2009.<br />
Then choose the period that goes with the loan term. Short-term, mid-term or long-term.<br />
There is no imputed interest calculation for loans totaling $10,000 or less if the loan is not directly attributable to purchase of income producing assets.<br />
Gift loans between individualss where the total outstanding in $100k or less no imputed interest will be charged if the borrower&#8217;s annual net investment income is less than $1k.</p>
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		<title>By: bob thacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob thacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you tell me what the imputed interest rate is today,please.

I&#039;m going to carry back a real estate trust deed and want charge the minimum amount I can charge without running afoul of the current umputed interest rate.

Thanks,

Bob Thacher
760/365-1100</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you tell me what the imputed interest rate is today,please.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to carry back a real estate trust deed and want charge the minimum amount I can charge without running afoul of the current umputed interest rate.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Bob Thacher<br />
760/365-1100</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback everyone!  I think lending money to family and friends can lead to a lot of resentment easily. 

I have been on both sides, so this post was also based on personal experience. I know that I felt bad getting a loan with my mom as a co-signer.  It has been completely paid off by me and I was never late, but I still felt bad having my mom on the loan. I had seen my mom burned by a few for her generosity and I want to not have that disappointment.

I have gifted small amounts for true emergencies  and personally find it better than a loan.  I think you know what&#039;s right for you and at the same time protect yourself. 

@Katie: I haven&#039;t heard of this law, but it does pay to check out for yourself the rules in your state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback everyone!  I think lending money to family and friends can lead to a lot of resentment easily. </p>
<p>I have been on both sides, so this post was also based on personal experience. I know that I felt bad getting a loan with my mom as a co-signer.  It has been completely paid off by me and I was never late, but I still felt bad having my mom on the loan. I had seen my mom burned by a few for her generosity and I want to not have that disappointment.</p>
<p>I have gifted small amounts for true emergencies  and personally find it better than a loan.  I think you know what&#8217;s right for you and at the same time protect yourself. </p>
<p>@Katie: I haven&#8217;t heard of this law, but it does pay to check out for yourself the rules in your state.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never have been in a position to loan a large sum of money to a family member, but I am sure it will come up later in my life.

I agree with those above who say you have to think of any &quot;loan&quot; as a gift, not expecting to get it back.

I heard just recently about a bank that is actually set up to facilitate person to person loans like this. Don&#039;t have any experience with it though.

Virgin Money Personal Loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never have been in a position to loan a large sum of money to a family member, but I am sure it will come up later in my life.</p>
<p>I agree with those above who say you have to think of any &#8220;loan&#8221; as a gift, not expecting to get it back.</p>
<p>I heard just recently about a bank that is actually set up to facilitate person to person loans like this. Don&#8217;t have any experience with it though.</p>
<p>Virgin Money Personal Loans.</p>
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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@katie, 

I think that may be another case of business law being taught by a non-lawyer...because I never learned that little tidbit in law school.  

Regardless your actions allows you to sleep at night and that is the most important thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@katie, </p>
<p>I think that may be another case of business law being taught by a non-lawyer&#8230;because I never learned that little tidbit in law school.  </p>
<p>Regardless your actions allows you to sleep at night and that is the most important thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with DDFD.  If you&#039;re going to loan money to a family member or friend, you should only do so if you are completely comfortable with the prospect of NEVER getting your money back.  Even if you can&#039;t afford to give a lot, sometimes the simple gesture of loaning (or really, giving) a few dollars to a friend or family member in need can do wonders.  It&#039;s a great example of what the authors a book I read a few years ago called The Power of Nice, are calling &quot;The Power of Small&quot;-- that our tiniest actions can have a huge impact-- and I think that&#039;s the case here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with DDFD.  If you&#8217;re going to loan money to a family member or friend, you should only do so if you are completely comfortable with the prospect of NEVER getting your money back.  Even if you can&#8217;t afford to give a lot, sometimes the simple gesture of loaning (or really, giving) a few dollars to a friend or family member in need can do wonders.  It&#8217;s a great example of what the authors a book I read a few years ago called The Power of Nice, are calling &#8220;The Power of Small&#8221;&#8211; that our tiniest actions can have a huge impact&#8211; and I think that&#8217;s the case here.</p>
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		<title>By: SandwichArtist</title>
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		<dc:creator>SandwichArtist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it is true that you could be held liable if you wrote the check directly to the creditor. Our church helps out with things like that all the time and writes checks directly to creditors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is true that you could be held liable if you wrote the check directly to the creditor. Our church helps out with things like that all the time and writes checks directly to creditors.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to add another caution about helping out friends/family.  About six months ago, we learned my mother-in-law was behind on her car payments.  She had just secured employment (finally!) and so we decided to lend/gift her the two payments she was behind, ensuring that her car would not be repossessed and she would be able to continue going to her job.

We were slightly concerned she may not use the money as directed, but my husband--just having finished a business law class--informed me that if we were to write a check directly to the creditor to pay her debts that would make us liable, in a court of law, for the debt should she default on the loan.  Our signature and check directed toward that loan would indicate we were able and willing to be responsible for the entire debt, should it come down to it.

We made the check out to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to add another caution about helping out friends/family.  About six months ago, we learned my mother-in-law was behind on her car payments.  She had just secured employment (finally!) and so we decided to lend/gift her the two payments she was behind, ensuring that her car would not be repossessed and she would be able to continue going to her job.</p>
<p>We were slightly concerned she may not use the money as directed, but my husband&#8211;just having finished a business law class&#8211;informed me that if we were to write a check directly to the creditor to pay her debts that would make us liable, in a court of law, for the debt should she default on the loan.  Our signature and check directed toward that loan would indicate we were able and willing to be responsible for the entire debt, should it come down to it.</p>
<p>We made the check out to her.</p>
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		<title>By: Baker @ ManVsDebt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baker @ ManVsDebt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos for tackling a subject some pf bloggers might ignore.  Lending money to family and friends is often a very personal experience and can cause some debate.

Personally, I go by the rule that we don&#039;t ever loan money to anyone.  If we ever give money to family or friends we let them know up front it is a gift.  They should not concentrate on paying it back.  There is no time frame and no expectation.

The truth is it is very hard to realistically get to that point emotionally.  In a few rare cases, my wife and I have given money, because we were able to fully commit to giving a gift and not a loan.

This principle has also kept me from loaning money several times that we normally would have.  By now a lot of my family and friends know this principle and would only come to us in true emergency situations.

Unless there is a true emergency, it is usually better for the personal to struggle through the situation anyhow.  It will help build character and determination to turn around their financial life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos for tackling a subject some pf bloggers might ignore.  Lending money to family and friends is often a very personal experience and can cause some debate.</p>
<p>Personally, I go by the rule that we don&#8217;t ever loan money to anyone.  If we ever give money to family or friends we let them know up front it is a gift.  They should not concentrate on paying it back.  There is no time frame and no expectation.</p>
<p>The truth is it is very hard to realistically get to that point emotionally.  In a few rare cases, my wife and I have given money, because we were able to fully commit to giving a gift and not a loan.</p>
<p>This principle has also kept me from loaning money several times that we normally would have.  By now a lot of my family and friends know this principle and would only come to us in true emergency situations.</p>
<p>Unless there is a true emergency, it is usually better for the personal to struggle through the situation anyhow.  It will help build character and determination to turn around their financial life.</p>
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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree about the general sentiment of the article, IF you are going to do it...why not do it through a lending club or prosper sort of situation?  

Additionally it should be noted that the IRS doesn&#039;t allow for interest free family loans - you have to charge at least the AFR rate, or the imputed interest (that you didn&#039;t charge) is a taxable gift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree about the general sentiment of the article, IF you are going to do it&#8230;why not do it through a lending club or prosper sort of situation?  </p>
<p>Additionally it should be noted that the IRS doesn&#8217;t allow for interest free family loans &#8211; you have to charge at least the AFR rate, or the imputed interest (that you didn&#8217;t charge) is a taxable gift.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a similar article stating that lending money to friends and relatives is a bad idea.

I mean if they can&#039;t help themselves right now, how will they be able to pay you back when they are deeper in debt?

Also, offering non financial help is best but really most people just like to throw money at the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a similar article stating that lending money to friends and relatives is a bad idea.</p>
<p>I mean if they can&#8217;t help themselves right now, how will they be able to pay you back when they are deeper in debt?</p>
<p>Also, offering non financial help is best but really most people just like to throw money at the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always felt that you should help out if you can, but don&#039;t expect to get the money back-- it is more of a gift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always felt that you should help out if you can, but don&#8217;t expect to get the money back&#8211; it is more of a gift.</p>
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