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		<title>By: H Lee D</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-2/#comment-135114</link>
		<dc:creator>H Lee D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not frugality, that&#039;s abuse...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not frugality, that&#8217;s abuse&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GaelicWench</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaelicWench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen, it sounds like your husband is &quot;a bit&quot; on the controlling side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen, it sounds like your husband is &#8220;a bit&#8221; on the controlling side.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a mother of 3.  A 15, and 3 year old and a 2 month old.  My husband is a truck driver and has decided for me, that I don&#039;t need a car.  I live in a rural area.  I think he doesn&#039;t want me or the kids out of the house.  It depresses me, actually.  If I need to go to the store, I usually have to wait until the middle of the night when he comes home-or he also gives me the option of dropping him off at work, which is always at an odd time-like midnight or 3 A.M.  I&#039;m sorry, but that&#039;s awful to do to your kids!  My kids rarely get out anymore and my 15 year old cannot go to school functions that regular kids go to.  He is too nice to ask someone to take him home, and I don&#039;t blame him.  It&#039;s not polite to ask someone else to cart around my family.  Emergencies do happen, yes I know there&#039;s an ambulance, as my husband has told me, but do you really need to call an ambulance when you run out of toilet paper-or you spilled your last can of baby formula?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a mother of 3.  A 15, and 3 year old and a 2 month old.  My husband is a truck driver and has decided for me, that I don&#8217;t need a car.  I live in a rural area.  I think he doesn&#8217;t want me or the kids out of the house.  It depresses me, actually.  If I need to go to the store, I usually have to wait until the middle of the night when he comes home-or he also gives me the option of dropping him off at work, which is always at an odd time-like midnight or 3 A.M.  I&#8217;m sorry, but that&#8217;s awful to do to your kids!  My kids rarely get out anymore and my 15 year old cannot go to school functions that regular kids go to.  He is too nice to ask someone to take him home, and I don&#8217;t blame him.  It&#8217;s not polite to ask someone else to cart around my family.  Emergencies do happen, yes I know there&#8217;s an ambulance, as my husband has told me, but do you really need to call an ambulance when you run out of toilet paper-or you spilled your last can of baby formula?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this post googling &#039;one car family&#039; - looking for other peoples experiences... and it has been a very interesting read! I live in large (by Australian terms!) Australian City - half a million people, but with pretty poor public transport infrastructure. There was little planning for it in the boom days of the 80&#039;s (1980&#039;s!) so we are left with sprawling suburbia that is fairly disconnected to the high density urban coastal strip. We decided to go the high mortgage/small backyard option and live in the city area. Initially we had 2 cars but for the last 5 yes I have been a stay home mum so the 2nd car spent most of it&#039;s time in the garage. I finally convinced hubby to sell his old suby wrx - a hangover from our dink days... His was VERY skeptical to say the least and we had a few heated arguments. The worst part being his mates who would make comments about him losing his manliness!! Anyway it&#039;s been 3 mths now and it&#039;s running smoothly!! I also get that &#039;car pity&#039; feeling seeing drivers stuck in traffic jams while I ride my kids to school on the bikes. Can I also say you should factor in depreciation costs when lookin at monthly spends if you paid cash- I lost AU $30000 in 5 years on my Mazda tribute- but it could be worse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this post googling &#8216;one car family&#8217; &#8211; looking for other peoples experiences&#8230; and it has been a very interesting read! I live in large (by Australian terms!) Australian City &#8211; half a million people, but with pretty poor public transport infrastructure. There was little planning for it in the boom days of the 80&#8217;s (1980&#8217;s!) so we are left with sprawling suburbia that is fairly disconnected to the high density urban coastal strip. We decided to go the high mortgage/small backyard option and live in the city area. Initially we had 2 cars but for the last 5 yes I have been a stay home mum so the 2nd car spent most of it&#8217;s time in the garage. I finally convinced hubby to sell his old suby wrx &#8211; a hangover from our dink days&#8230; His was VERY skeptical to say the least and we had a few heated arguments. The worst part being his mates who would make comments about him losing his manliness!! Anyway it&#8217;s been 3 mths now and it&#8217;s running smoothly!! I also get that &#8216;car pity&#8217; feeling seeing drivers stuck in traffic jams while I ride my kids to school on the bikes. Can I also say you should factor in depreciation costs when lookin at monthly spends if you paid cash- I lost AU $30000 in 5 years on my Mazda tribute- but it could be worse!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-2/#comment-134547</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my Jeep back... I got my Jeep back! &lt;em&gt;*picture me singing this song and doing the happy dance*&lt;/em&gt;

See details of the drawn out experience in &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/08/20/how-to-deal-with-a-bad-deal-dfa/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Deal With a Bad Deal&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.  To see how it turned out in the end, read comment 17 of that post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my Jeep back&#8230; I got my Jeep back! <em>*picture me singing this song and doing the happy dance*</em></p>
<p>See details of the drawn out experience in &#8220;<a href="http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/08/20/how-to-deal-with-a-bad-deal-dfa/" rel="nofollow">How to Deal With a Bad Deal</a>&#8220;.  To see how it turned out in the end, read comment 17 of that post.</p>
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		<title>By: Slinky</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-2/#comment-133981</link>
		<dc:creator>Slinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was without a car for about 4-5 months after my car died and before I got my new one. We made it work because we had to, but by the end of it, we were both pretty cranky about it. It was a pain to constantly schedule who is going where when and on which days to do what so that everything got done. Even so we often ran into things where there was just no way to make it work.

Most of all, I felt trapped by it. I love to walk and I don&#039;t mind a bike ride, and I&#039;m no stranger to the bus, but I was trapped. There are places I could get to without a car, but I couldn&#039;t get to any of the places that mattered to me. Every visit to my mum&#039;s or my best friend&#039;s had to be carefully choreographed. If I wanted to go to X, he had to give up Y. It would be great to save the money, but having tried it, I just consider it the price of freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was without a car for about 4-5 months after my car died and before I got my new one. We made it work because we had to, but by the end of it, we were both pretty cranky about it. It was a pain to constantly schedule who is going where when and on which days to do what so that everything got done. Even so we often ran into things where there was just no way to make it work.</p>
<p>Most of all, I felt trapped by it. I love to walk and I don&#8217;t mind a bike ride, and I&#8217;m no stranger to the bus, but I was trapped. There are places I could get to without a car, but I couldn&#8217;t get to any of the places that mattered to me. Every visit to my mum&#8217;s or my best friend&#8217;s had to be carefully choreographed. If I wanted to go to X, he had to give up Y. It would be great to save the money, but having tried it, I just consider it the price of freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-2/#comment-133505</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is much wisdom in what Gary-#53 has said.  Leasing &amp; financing vehicles will not be found in my financial plan either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is much wisdom in what Gary-#53 has said.  Leasing &amp; financing vehicles will not be found in my financial plan either.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Garnier</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-2/#comment-133503</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Garnier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stacey&#039;s last line is one of the most important points around car ownership, regardless of the number you own: &quot;pay for the ... car in cash&quot;. I have always paid cash for cars. If I can&#039;t put together enough to buy the car I want, then I&#039;m wanting something I can&#039;t afford. Pay cash and it can&#039;t be taken away from you when, arguably, you need it most - hunting for a job, or reliably getting to a job farther than you can walk/bike/bus.

Making payments on a &quot;car mortgage&quot; is really questionable. But leasing is simply insane - a big payment up front, monthly payments for years, and in the end you own nothing. It drives me nuts to see the statement &quot;Leasing allows you to drive a car you couldn&#039;t otherwise afford.&quot; No, leasing burdens you with a car you can&#039;t afford - period.

The judgment of whether you can afford something is always a bit subjective. Our culture is so car-centric that it seems a given that there must be (at least) one car per licensed driver in the household.

The car purchase is especially driven by emotion and satisfying the underlying &quot;fact&quot; that you must have a car to go anywhere, never looking at true cost. The purchase and resultant cost of ownership is always seen as a one-time thing, a stroke to your ego, disconnected from the cost of each mile we drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stacey&#8217;s last line is one of the most important points around car ownership, regardless of the number you own: &#8220;pay for the &#8230; car in cash&#8221;. I have always paid cash for cars. If I can&#8217;t put together enough to buy the car I want, then I&#8217;m wanting something I can&#8217;t afford. Pay cash and it can&#8217;t be taken away from you when, arguably, you need it most &#8211; hunting for a job, or reliably getting to a job farther than you can walk/bike/bus.</p>
<p>Making payments on a &#8220;car mortgage&#8221; is really questionable. But leasing is simply insane &#8211; a big payment up front, monthly payments for years, and in the end you own nothing. It drives me nuts to see the statement &#8220;Leasing allows you to drive a car you couldn&#8217;t otherwise afford.&#8221; No, leasing burdens you with a car you can&#8217;t afford &#8211; period.</p>
<p>The judgment of whether you can afford something is always a bit subjective. Our culture is so car-centric that it seems a given that there must be (at least) one car per licensed driver in the household.</p>
<p>The car purchase is especially driven by emotion and satisfying the underlying &#8220;fact&#8221; that you must have a car to go anywhere, never looking at true cost. The purchase and resultant cost of ownership is always seen as a one-time thing, a stroke to your ego, disconnected from the cost of each mile we drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-2/#comment-133497</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I have been a one car couple for 8 months now, and haven&#039;t missed that second car once!!  We live and both work in downtown Baltimore, his commute is 0.7 miles and mine is 1.5 - very walkable. We found that the second car was becoming more of a liability than it was useful, since it was just sitting parked on the street a lot of the time begging to get hit (and once was, right before we sold it).  

Hubby and I both grew up in rural areas with no public transportation and no sidewalks for biking, so our families were highly skeptical that we would make it long with only one car.  A little extra coordination (and his willingness to drive me to the airport at o&#039;dark-30 for early work flights) has worked well, and we hope to remain a one car family for at least the next 3 years, allowing us to pay for the next car in cash!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I have been a one car couple for 8 months now, and haven&#8217;t missed that second car once!!  We live and both work in downtown Baltimore, his commute is 0.7 miles and mine is 1.5 &#8211; very walkable. We found that the second car was becoming more of a liability than it was useful, since it was just sitting parked on the street a lot of the time begging to get hit (and once was, right before we sold it).  </p>
<p>Hubby and I both grew up in rural areas with no public transportation and no sidewalks for biking, so our families were highly skeptical that we would make it long with only one car.  A little extra coordination (and his willingness to drive me to the airport at o&#8217;dark-30 for early work flights) has worked well, and we hope to remain a one car family for at least the next 3 years, allowing us to pay for the next car in cash!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Homme:  I actually have a motorcycle, but it has given me trouble ever since I bought it.  I originally purchased it with the idea to save money on gas, but it was a used bike (83 Honda V45 Magna) and it has been a bit of a money pit so I just stopped driving it &amp; am going to sell it.

That said, I do think this can be a good idea if implemented correctly... another idea is to get a scotter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Homme:  I actually have a motorcycle, but it has given me trouble ever since I bought it.  I originally purchased it with the idea to save money on gas, but it was a used bike (83 Honda V45 Magna) and it has been a bit of a money pit so I just stopped driving it &amp; am going to sell it.</p>
<p>That said, I do think this can be a good idea if implemented correctly&#8230; another idea is to get a scotter!</p>
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		<title>By: Homme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I live in Thailand but I am sure its pretty much applicable all around the world. We are a one car family. My wife drives and I being a guy ride motorcycle to wherever I want to go. Saves time and money, although there is an initial investment to get a motorcycle, doesn&#039;t have to be fancy but a second hand in good condition just to get you around should do fine. Downside is if it rains then you can take the car ride to the bus stop or get a raincoat. I don&#039;t know how old you are or if you know how to ride a motorcycle, but thats my input. Just another perspective. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I live in Thailand but I am sure its pretty much applicable all around the world. We are a one car family. My wife drives and I being a guy ride motorcycle to wherever I want to go. Saves time and money, although there is an initial investment to get a motorcycle, doesn&#8217;t have to be fancy but a second hand in good condition just to get you around should do fine. Downside is if it rains then you can take the car ride to the bus stop or get a raincoat. I don&#8217;t know how old you are or if you know how to ride a motorcycle, but thats my input. Just another perspective. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: DivaJean</title>
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		<dc:creator>DivaJean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My family has been a one car family for over 15 years now. People are incredulous that we do this.  We have 4 kids (ages 10, 7, 4, and 2) and hubby is the stay at home mom. She keeps the car for all the day to day needs and I commute on the bus. It provides me with greatly needed downtime in between work and home- to sort out my own thoughts and not be responsible for anyone or anything else for that 25 min bus ride. I think it saves my energy for getting back into the swing at home. It just seems crazy for me to take on the added expense to have a car that is used for less than 4 hours a week- and sits in the driveway or parking lot the rest of the time. Bus fare is only $2.50 a day. That doesn&#039;t cover parking, let alone the car payment, insurance, gas and upkeep!

There may be one or two times a year that I might need to use a cab- certainly way cheaper than the upkeep of a car would have been. (Last time about a year ago, it cost $6.50 and tip to get home). 

One thing though- when I was laid off from my job in February- obviously, priority of who gets the car needs to be fluid. I certainly needed it for getting to interviews, appointments, etc in a punctual manner when the city bus schedule might not necessarily comply with my needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family has been a one car family for over 15 years now. People are incredulous that we do this.  We have 4 kids (ages 10, 7, 4, and 2) and hubby is the stay at home mom. She keeps the car for all the day to day needs and I commute on the bus. It provides me with greatly needed downtime in between work and home- to sort out my own thoughts and not be responsible for anyone or anything else for that 25 min bus ride. I think it saves my energy for getting back into the swing at home. It just seems crazy for me to take on the added expense to have a car that is used for less than 4 hours a week- and sits in the driveway or parking lot the rest of the time. Bus fare is only $2.50 a day. That doesn&#8217;t cover parking, let alone the car payment, insurance, gas and upkeep!</p>
<p>There may be one or two times a year that I might need to use a cab- certainly way cheaper than the upkeep of a car would have been. (Last time about a year ago, it cost $6.50 and tip to get home). </p>
<p>One thing though- when I was laid off from my job in February- obviously, priority of who gets the car needs to be fluid. I certainly needed it for getting to interviews, appointments, etc in a punctual manner when the city bus schedule might not necessarily comply with my needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Erika:  Great testimony!  Thanks a ton for sharing your experience &amp; wise insight...

It is all about the willingness to sacrifice in one aspect of life in order to realize more personally desirable results in another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Erika:  Great testimony!  Thanks a ton for sharing your experience &amp; wise insight&#8230;</p>
<p>It is all about the willingness to sacrifice in one aspect of life in order to realize more personally desirable results in another.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DH and I shared one vehicle for 4-5 years and it worked out great.  (We were young, poor and in love in those days ha ha.) In the early years we would carpool together because our retail jobs were only a few blocks apart and our hours were almost the same.  Later, when we switched to new careers I took the bus and he used the car. 

A friend ALWAYS used to grumble at me that I only worked part time (4 days/32 hours a week) during those years while she worked full time.  I finally pointed out to her that I could afford to do so because I didn&#039;t have to shell out $400 a month or so for a new car payment/ gas/etc. like she did.  Never heard another peep!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DH and I shared one vehicle for 4-5 years and it worked out great.  (We were young, poor and in love in those days ha ha.) In the early years we would carpool together because our retail jobs were only a few blocks apart and our hours were almost the same.  Later, when we switched to new careers I took the bus and he used the car. </p>
<p>A friend ALWAYS used to grumble at me that I only worked part time (4 days/32 hours a week) during those years while she worked full time.  I finally pointed out to her that I could afford to do so because I didn&#8217;t have to shell out $400 a month or so for a new car payment/ gas/etc. like she did.  Never heard another peep!</p>
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		<title>By: DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>DDFD at DivorcedDadFrugalDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post!  Necessity may be the mother of invention, but it looks like she also has a child called learning.  You learned that you can do without . . . 

As for the mechanic-- he should be drawn and quartered-- I mean come on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post!  Necessity may be the mother of invention, but it looks like she also has a child called learning.  You learned that you can do without . . . </p>
<p>As for the mechanic&#8211; he should be drawn and quartered&#8211; I mean come on!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My fiance and I go back and forth on this question often. We have two old cars that are all paid off but we could probably get away with only having one. Thing is, our job situations will most likely change in the next two years, so it&#039;s possible that our car needs could change too.  So for now, we&#039;re holding on to our two beaters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My fiance and I go back and forth on this question often. We have two old cars that are all paid off but we could probably get away with only having one. Thing is, our job situations will most likely change in the next two years, so it&#8217;s possible that our car needs could change too.  So for now, we&#8217;re holding on to our two beaters.</p>
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		<title>By: LAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We basically use one car for the past 4 years.  We have 2.  Granted it&#039;s a beater car so if it were ever wrecked we wouldn&#039;t fix it. It is a 2000 Ford Focus for our spare car.

So our insurance and maintenance on the car cost less than $1k/year for it. We kept it for when I want to drive or need to drive. It came in especially useful when my DH had night classes.

Now due to circumstances we need two cars again.  So I&#039;m glad we kept them.  We had thought 4 years ago about selling, now it&#039;s impossible.

We might actually be getting a new car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We basically use one car for the past 4 years.  We have 2.  Granted it&#8217;s a beater car so if it were ever wrecked we wouldn&#8217;t fix it. It is a 2000 Ford Focus for our spare car.</p>
<p>So our insurance and maintenance on the car cost less than $1k/year for it. We kept it for when I want to drive or need to drive. It came in especially useful when my DH had night classes.</p>
<p>Now due to circumstances we need two cars again.  So I&#8217;m glad we kept them.  We had thought 4 years ago about selling, now it&#8217;s impossible.</p>
<p>We might actually be getting a new car.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexicographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexicographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d contend that we could do it pretty easily but we don&#039;t, and I&#039;ll further contend that DH is the reason.

We live and he works in a town that has good, free-to-the-ridership (!) public transport, so he could easily get to &amp; from work without a car (but he won&#039;t do it).  My commute goes from 1 hr. r/t to 4 r/t if I use public transport, so it&#039;s just not practical for me (though I do it, very rarely).  Oh ... his workplace also has zipcars.

We did manage car sharing (not public transport) one summer, but he was a complete pill about it, i.e., it only worked if I dropped him off when he wanted to be and picked him up ditto with no flexibility for my needs (and note that I have the longer commute but was somehow having to get my work done in the same amount of time as he did).

If I sound irritated, I am, a bit, but the flip side of that is that the extra cost of our second car (it&#039;s paid for) is certainly no more than $100/month, and in the end the convenience is worth it.  I&#039;m sure marital counseling would cost more!  With a toddler in our home and limited use of paid daycare, we do a lot of juggling already, so there&#039;s no need to add more for what we&#039;d save.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d contend that we could do it pretty easily but we don&#8217;t, and I&#8217;ll further contend that DH is the reason.</p>
<p>We live and he works in a town that has good, free-to-the-ridership (!) public transport, so he could easily get to &amp; from work without a car (but he won&#8217;t do it).  My commute goes from 1 hr. r/t to 4 r/t if I use public transport, so it&#8217;s just not practical for me (though I do it, very rarely).  Oh &#8230; his workplace also has zipcars.</p>
<p>We did manage car sharing (not public transport) one summer, but he was a complete pill about it, i.e., it only worked if I dropped him off when he wanted to be and picked him up ditto with no flexibility for my needs (and note that I have the longer commute but was somehow having to get my work done in the same amount of time as he did).</p>
<p>If I sound irritated, I am, a bit, but the flip side of that is that the extra cost of our second car (it&#8217;s paid for) is certainly no more than $100/month, and in the end the convenience is worth it.  I&#8217;m sure marital counseling would cost more!  With a toddler in our home and limited use of paid daycare, we do a lot of juggling already, so there&#8217;s no need to add more for what we&#8217;d save.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Garnier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Garnier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son was the typical young male, car-enrapt, saved his money and bought a Honda Element. After moving to San Francisco he left it with us to see how living carless would work for him. I figured he&#039;d be back for the Element within a couple of weeks. He was back two months later to get it - and sell it.

Zipcar was part of the equation - walk a block or two to a spot in a corner of a fastfood parking lot, lay his member card over a sensor in the corner of the windshield and the doors open for him. The per-trip cost might seem high, overall on a yearly basis he&#039;s way ahead of the game, can select a car appropriate to the nature of the trip (Mini to pickup truck), and enjoys some neat high-tech benefits. Leave your lights on? The car &quot;phones home&quot; and you get a call on your cell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son was the typical young male, car-enrapt, saved his money and bought a Honda Element. After moving to San Francisco he left it with us to see how living carless would work for him. I figured he&#8217;d be back for the Element within a couple of weeks. He was back two months later to get it &#8211; and sell it.</p>
<p>Zipcar was part of the equation &#8211; walk a block or two to a spot in a corner of a fastfood parking lot, lay his member card over a sensor in the corner of the windshield and the doors open for him. The per-trip cost might seem high, overall on a yearly basis he&#8217;s way ahead of the game, can select a car appropriate to the nature of the trip (Mini to pickup truck), and enjoys some neat high-tech benefits. Leave your lights on? The car &#8220;phones home&#8221; and you get a call on your cell.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alexandra:  I love your comment about road rage.  That was one of the first things I noticed when I started riding my bike &amp; walking more... I saw the huge amounts of road rage in others and I now had none!!  It is a VERY freeing feeling.

@BrianG:  I was doing that too, before my motorcycle broke down just a few weeks into the warm season (we live in Michigan).  This idea works because, in most circumstances, a bike is less expensive than a car; and you&#039;re right... if you have the right gear you can ride in most conditions w/o a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alexandra:  I love your comment about road rage.  That was one of the first things I noticed when I started riding my bike &amp; walking more&#8230; I saw the huge amounts of road rage in others and I now had none!!  It is a VERY freeing feeling.</p>
<p>@BrianG:  I was doing that too, before my motorcycle broke down just a few weeks into the warm season (we live in Michigan).  This idea works because, in most circumstances, a bike is less expensive than a car; and you&#8217;re right&#8230; if you have the right gear you can ride in most conditions w/o a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: briang</title>
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		<dc:creator>briang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about one car and one motorcycle. This is what my wife and I do. 

I use the motorcycle to go to and from work. Everything else that involves needing carrying space we coordinate with the car. 

With the right gear, commuting in the rain on the motorcycle isn&#039;t a problem, but if you live where it snows, it would be difficult and you can&#039;t ride on ice. But then you do have the bus option when it&#039;s cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about one car and one motorcycle. This is what my wife and I do. </p>
<p>I use the motorcycle to go to and from work. Everything else that involves needing carrying space we coordinate with the car. </p>
<p>With the right gear, commuting in the rain on the motorcycle isn&#8217;t a problem, but if you live where it snows, it would be difficult and you can&#8217;t ride on ice. But then you do have the bus option when it&#8217;s cold.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re a one-car family, and have been for the past five years or so.  I am determined to always live close enough to my workplace so that I can walk to work everyday, while my husband uses the car.  We have moved several times in the last seven years, never far enough away that being able to walk to work was impossible.  Although having one car has financial benefits, for me the benefits are emotional.  I use the walk to and from work as a way to excercise my body while I clear my mind and enjoy the sights of the city.  I used to suffer from road rage really badly, and I promised myself years ago that I would always live close to my workplace in order to save my sanity.

We have rarely had any conflicts thus far - we just compromise during the rare occassions we both need to use the car for different purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re a one-car family, and have been for the past five years or so.  I am determined to always live close enough to my workplace so that I can walk to work everyday, while my husband uses the car.  We have moved several times in the last seven years, never far enough away that being able to walk to work was impossible.  Although having one car has financial benefits, for me the benefits are emotional.  I use the walk to and from work as a way to excercise my body while I clear my mind and enjoy the sights of the city.  I used to suffer from road rage really badly, and I promised myself years ago that I would always live close to my workplace in order to save my sanity.</p>
<p>We have rarely had any conflicts thus far &#8211; we just compromise during the rare occassions we both need to use the car for different purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133262</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me and my husband get by with only one car. We moved to a small town where we can walk to the train station or bus stop, grocery stores, Starbucks, a movie theater, parks, the library etc. I take the bus to work, a half an hour ride and catch up on mail, RSS etc on my iphone. I&#039;ve also gotten to know a lot of people when we take the same bus, so it works for me. I&#039;m European and I don&#039;t know anyone in Sweden that has more than one car, although public transportation is so much better developed there. Hopefully USA will get there too one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me and my husband get by with only one car. We moved to a small town where we can walk to the train station or bus stop, grocery stores, Starbucks, a movie theater, parks, the library etc. I take the bus to work, a half an hour ride and catch up on mail, RSS etc on my iphone. I&#8217;ve also gotten to know a lot of people when we take the same bus, so it works for me. I&#8217;m European and I don&#8217;t know anyone in Sweden that has more than one car, although public transportation is so much better developed there. Hopefully USA will get there too one day.</p>
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		<title>By: H Lee D</title>
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		<dc:creator>H Lee D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to be a 1-car household, but with our jobs where and how they are, it&#039;s not feasible.

We are both teachers.  My husband&#039;s job is about 10 miles closer to home than mine, but he is a traveling teacher, so he needs transportation in the middle of the day (not enough time to use the bus system if he&#039;s going to be on time).

My job is almost 20 miles from home and is in a very very poor neighborhood with a lot of crime.  I&#039;m not comfortable walking from the train station (18 blocks) or biking through the &#039;hood.  I am able to carpool on average 3 times a week.  Other teachers who live near me are the 7-7 people (they&#039;re constantly at work), and carpooling isn&#039;t worth spending an extra 3-5 hours at work every day.

So for now, we&#039;re a two-car family.  Maybe someday we&#039;ll be able to chop that down...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to be a 1-car household, but with our jobs where and how they are, it&#8217;s not feasible.</p>
<p>We are both teachers.  My husband&#8217;s job is about 10 miles closer to home than mine, but he is a traveling teacher, so he needs transportation in the middle of the day (not enough time to use the bus system if he&#8217;s going to be on time).</p>
<p>My job is almost 20 miles from home and is in a very very poor neighborhood with a lot of crime.  I&#8217;m not comfortable walking from the train station (18 blocks) or biking through the &#8216;hood.  I am able to carpool on average 3 times a week.  Other teachers who live near me are the 7-7 people (they&#8217;re constantly at work), and carpooling isn&#8217;t worth spending an extra 3-5 hours at work every day.</p>
<p>So for now, we&#8217;re a two-car family.  Maybe someday we&#8217;ll be able to chop that down&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SonyaAnn:  I have been waiting for someone to ask that question!  The answer is... partially.  I paid him the money to buy the parts (which he has bought) and half of the labor costs.  I do have receipts for all of his work, so I have my bases covered there.

I learned long ago... when it comes down to business - always get a receipt and never pay in full up front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SonyaAnn:  I have been waiting for someone to ask that question!  The answer is&#8230; partially.  I paid him the money to buy the parts (which he has bought) and half of the labor costs.  I do have receipts for all of his work, so I have my bases covered there.</p>
<p>I learned long ago&#8230; when it comes down to business &#8211; always get a receipt and never pay in full up front.</p>
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		<title>By: SonyaAnn</title>
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		<dc:creator>SonyaAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have three cars so we are sort of car pigs. But our daughter was given our old car in exchange for good grades. So in a way it is helping us out with college, we hope. But I think that we could make it with one car but our 17 yr old wouldn&#039;t be happy.
Please tell me that you didn&#039;t pay the guy upfront!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have three cars so we are sort of car pigs. But our daughter was given our old car in exchange for good grades. So in a way it is helping us out with college, we hope. But I think that we could make it with one car but our 17 yr old wouldn&#8217;t be happy.<br />
Please tell me that you didn&#8217;t pay the guy upfront!</p>
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier this year, I had the experience of my parents needing to borrow one of our cars for about 2 months. We never thought we could get by with only one car, but we were able to make it work.

We&#039;re back to a 2-car family, but we are comforted by the fact that if anything happens, we can always get rid of one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier this year, I had the experience of my parents needing to borrow one of our cars for about 2 months. We never thought we could get by with only one car, but we were able to make it work.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re back to a 2-car family, but we are comforted by the fact that if anything happens, we can always get rid of one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve clearly struck a nerve here.

My wife and I live in a major city with a decent subway/Metro system. We haven&#039;t own a car since 2001. We use public transit only. Occasionally, we&#039;ll ride with friends somewhere (often we pick up gas), but we haven&#039;t really missed the car. And we love saving a couple hundred bucks a month from not paying car payments, gas, insurance, maintenance, etc.

But that&#039;s not all. We&#039;ve made not having a car pay. We rent our our parking space for $200 a month AND use pre-tax dollars to purchase credits on the Metro system.

We&#039;ve given up some freedom, but we believe it is absolutely worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve clearly struck a nerve here.</p>
<p>My wife and I live in a major city with a decent subway/Metro system. We haven&#8217;t own a car since 2001. We use public transit only. Occasionally, we&#8217;ll ride with friends somewhere (often we pick up gas), but we haven&#8217;t really missed the car. And we love saving a couple hundred bucks a month from not paying car payments, gas, insurance, maintenance, etc.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not all. We&#8217;ve made not having a car pay. We rent our our parking space for $200 a month AND use pre-tax dollars to purchase credits on the Metro system.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve given up some freedom, but we believe it is absolutely worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin ... the cars are on the street in your neighborhood... you reserve them online or by phone in half hour blocks .... go to the car at the reserved time, use a membership card to unlock the door, and go.  Here in DC, I have about 10 cars within a mile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin &#8230; the cars are on the street in your neighborhood&#8230; you reserve them online or by phone in half hour blocks &#8230;. go to the car at the reserved time, use a membership card to unlock the door, and go.  Here in DC, I have about 10 cars within a mile.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is that better than Hertz, et al?</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin:  Zipcar is a service where you are basically car share.  You get apply, get a zip card, reserve a car for when you need it, and go pick it up &amp; pay a fee for the time use.

It is a great system for people who only need to use a car once in awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin:  Zipcar is a service where you are basically car share.  You get apply, get a zip card, reserve a car for when you need it, and go pick it up &amp; pay a fee for the time use.</p>
<p>It is a great system for people who only need to use a car once in awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Value</title>
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		<dc:creator>Value</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I have been a 0 car couple for the last three years.  We live in D.C. and use metro to get everywhere, and what we can&#039;t metro, we use ZipCar.  Of course, you can only do this in a city -- but even here, we are an extreme minority.  

Despite the wide availability of public transportation, most people just assume you need a car to get by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I have been a 0 car couple for the last three years.  We live in D.C. and use metro to get everywhere, and what we can&#8217;t metro, we use ZipCar.  Of course, you can only do this in a city &#8212; but even here, we are an extreme minority.  </p>
<p>Despite the wide availability of public transportation, most people just assume you need a car to get by.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133237</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt--You have a unique way of bringing us face to face with our (&quot;Food for thought...&quot;) fundamental assumptions.

What is zipcar?  I could look it up on the web, but can anyone offer the Cliffs Notes version???

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt&#8211;You have a unique way of bringing us face to face with our (&#8220;Food for thought&#8230;&#8221;) fundamental assumptions.</p>
<p>What is zipcar?  I could look it up on the web, but can anyone offer the Cliffs Notes version???</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rosa:  Thanks for your words of encouragement.

@Brian:  Yeah, the zipcar thing is a neat idea.  Like the contents of this post... it isn&#039;t a good (or available) solution for everyone, but it great for some.  Although the $20-30/game sounds like a lot I&#039;m sure your friend added it all up &amp; found he will be saving a boat load of money.

Food for thought... the average person spends less than an hour a day in their vehicles but spend an average of around $25,000 for a new one.  In contrast, the average person spends 7 hours a day in their bed but only spend an average of $800 for a new one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rosa:  Thanks for your words of encouragement.</p>
<p>@Brian:  Yeah, the zipcar thing is a neat idea.  Like the contents of this post&#8230; it isn&#8217;t a good (or available) solution for everyone, but it great for some.  Although the $20-30/game sounds like a lot I&#8217;m sure your friend added it all up &amp; found he will be saving a boat load of money.</p>
<p>Food for thought&#8230; the average person spends less than an hour a day in their vehicles but spend an average of around $25,000 for a new one.  In contrast, the average person spends 7 hours a day in their bed but only spend an average of $800 for a new one!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133234</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting experience my friend is going through.  He is about to sell his new car, stop making payments, and cancel his insurance so he can use a zipcar.  

His only need is to use it to get to and from his hockey games and he is willing to pay an extra $20-$30 a game to take the zipcar as opposed to owning an extra vehicle for him and his wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting experience my friend is going through.  He is about to sell his new car, stop making payments, and cancel his insurance so he can use a zipcar.  </p>
<p>His only need is to use it to get to and from his hockey games and he is willing to pay an extra $20-$30 a game to take the zipcar as opposed to owning an extra vehicle for him and his wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133233</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in Minnesnowdah too, but in Minneapolis. Lots of people here ride year-round - my partner is one of them. And of course if there were an emergency we could call a cab.

It&#039;s easy because we planned around it - we both prefer to bike or bus - but doing what you did is really admirable, Matt. The transitions are what&#039;s hard.

We&#039;ve never had more than one car, and sometimes have had no car. The hardest thing to do with no car is shop for a car - all the dealerships are out in the boonies!

We do have four bikes, a stuff trailer and a 2-kid burley even though we only have one kid, but it cost about $2K total, way less than a second car and with no ongoing insurance or registration costs. Not to mention never paying for parking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Minnesnowdah too, but in Minneapolis. Lots of people here ride year-round &#8211; my partner is one of them. And of course if there were an emergency we could call a cab.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy because we planned around it &#8211; we both prefer to bike or bus &#8211; but doing what you did is really admirable, Matt. The transitions are what&#8217;s hard.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve never had more than one car, and sometimes have had no car. The hardest thing to do with no car is shop for a car &#8211; all the dealerships are out in the boonies!</p>
<p>We do have four bikes, a stuff trailer and a 2-kid burley even though we only have one kid, but it cost about $2K total, way less than a second car and with no ongoing insurance or registration costs. Not to mention never paying for parking!</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133232</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah--one thing we&#039;re both doing (summertime up here) is acting as though gas is still $4+/gallon-----this helps us to be more efficient by grouping errands, and considering shared rides with family to visit other family and walking/biking  or just forgoing the outing alltogether.

This much I can do! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah&#8211;one thing we&#8217;re both doing (summertime up here) is acting as though gas is still $4+/gallon&#8212;&#8211;this helps us to be more efficient by grouping errands, and considering shared rides with family to visit other family and walking/biking  or just forgoing the outing alltogether.</p>
<p>This much I can do! <img src='http://www.fivecentnickel.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133231</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idunno; I live in Minnesnowdah, have a baby on the way, and my hubby needs a truck to transport tools for work every day.  Plus his hours are fairly unpredictable....I like the concept, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;d work fer us.  Though someday (when I retire) and if I lived in a warm climate, I&#039;d def consider the bus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idunno; I live in Minnesnowdah, have a baby on the way, and my hubby needs a truck to transport tools for work every day.  Plus his hours are fairly unpredictable&#8230;.I like the concept, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;d work fer us.  Though someday (when I retire) and if I lived in a warm climate, I&#8217;d def consider the bus!</p>
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		<title>By: Zyzzyx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zyzzyx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely understand the point of this post, &quot;that cars may not be as necessary as society has made them seem.&quot;

I&#039;m a cyclist and read plenty of cycling and &#039;car-free&#039; blogs and such. Its just a bummer that I don&#039;t follow it much myself. I do ride to work (10 miles), but not very often. I&#039;ve got two cars for myself, though one is non-operational and waiting for work (1971 Dodge), so not costing me anything. 

But it gets better. I&#039;m currently housesitting for my parents while they&#039;re working out of state, so I have two more cars. Their daily driver, and my dad&#039;s old collector car. One person, four cars, two of which are really &#039;driveable&#039;. 

But no, it really gets even better. I mentioned I&#039;m a cyclist. Yup. With a total of six different bikes in the garage, three of which work just fine for commuting. But no...  I keep on driving. Because I&#039;m lazy.

I&#039;ve had folks say I should get rid of my second car, but its not costing me anything other than storage space in the driveway right now. My daily driver (&#039;99 Audi) was paid for with cash and insured with a high premium, so not much to save there.  

But yeah...  really should be riding my bike more. I too get to &#039;feeling sorry for the drivers&#039; when I&#039;m riding.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely understand the point of this post, &#8220;that cars may not be as necessary as society has made them seem.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a cyclist and read plenty of cycling and &#8216;car-free&#8217; blogs and such. Its just a bummer that I don&#8217;t follow it much myself. I do ride to work (10 miles), but not very often. I&#8217;ve got two cars for myself, though one is non-operational and waiting for work (1971 Dodge), so not costing me anything. </p>
<p>But it gets better. I&#8217;m currently housesitting for my parents while they&#8217;re working out of state, so I have two more cars. Their daily driver, and my dad&#8217;s old collector car. One person, four cars, two of which are really &#8216;driveable&#8217;. </p>
<p>But no, it really gets even better. I mentioned I&#8217;m a cyclist. Yup. With a total of six different bikes in the garage, three of which work just fine for commuting. But no&#8230;  I keep on driving. Because I&#8217;m lazy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had folks say I should get rid of my second car, but its not costing me anything other than storage space in the driveway right now. My daily driver (&#8216;99 Audi) was paid for with cash and insured with a high premium, so not much to save there.  </p>
<p>But yeah&#8230;  really should be riding my bike more. I too get to &#8216;feeling sorry for the drivers&#8217; when I&#8217;m riding.  <img src='http://www.fivecentnickel.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133227</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats a great story and a great experience Matt.  I have dealt without my car after my accident last month that i wrote about.  Its been rough goings, but i really think i will value having a car again differently.  It has also made me change my priorities and consider other lifestyle options that require less dependency on transportation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a great story and a great experience Matt.  I have dealt without my car after my accident last month that i wrote about.  Its been rough goings, but i really think i will value having a car again differently.  It has also made me change my priorities and consider other lifestyle options that require less dependency on transportation.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133225</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I have had one car for about 4 years now and it has worked out just fine for us. We work in different cities, but I drop him off and pick him up and we do all our errands together, we have different days off, so we decide who needs the car and work it from there. We enjoy not having the extra gas and maintenance of another vehicle and we also enjoy spending time together in the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I have had one car for about 4 years now and it has worked out just fine for us. We work in different cities, but I drop him off and pick him up and we do all our errands together, we have different days off, so we decide who needs the car and work it from there. We enjoy not having the extra gas and maintenance of another vehicle and we also enjoy spending time together in the car.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason H</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133224</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I have been a one car family since about 2 months after we got married and we sold her well used and loved car to her sister.  We&#039;ve lived both in the city (Columbia, SC) and in the exerbs (Longmont, CO).  In both cases my love of biking has been a savior, and now in Longmont we have bus service to Denver and Boulder.  In fact we bought a new car 3 years ago and we just now crossed 30k miles.  

I think it is possible for anyone to be a single car family as long as you plan your day and are willing to walk, bike, and ride.  Now we are considering selling our car because we moved to an even more connected part of town and have put a grand total of 100 miles in the past 6 weeks on the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I have been a one car family since about 2 months after we got married and we sold her well used and loved car to her sister.  We&#8217;ve lived both in the city (Columbia, SC) and in the exerbs (Longmont, CO).  In both cases my love of biking has been a savior, and now in Longmont we have bus service to Denver and Boulder.  In fact we bought a new car 3 years ago and we just now crossed 30k miles.  </p>
<p>I think it is possible for anyone to be a single car family as long as you plan your day and are willing to walk, bike, and ride.  Now we are considering selling our car because we moved to an even more connected part of town and have put a grand total of 100 miles in the past 6 weeks on the car.</p>
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		<title>By: GM</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133223</link>
		<dc:creator>GM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it could work, but with kids, I would prefer both parents to be mobile to get to them if needed.

Kids apart, the biggest issue I would foresee is scheduling. If you can make the scheduling work (like you have), then its a great way to save.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it could work, but with kids, I would prefer both parents to be mobile to get to them if needed.</p>
<p>Kids apart, the biggest issue I would foresee is scheduling. If you can make the scheduling work (like you have), then its a great way to save.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt--Your last point--&quot;This post is more an expression of the fact that cars may not be as necessary as society has made them seem&quot; is well taken, and the primary message of the post.  It seems like you&#039;re challenging us to confront an assumption (the second car) as a given.  Well done, we need this sort of challenge in many, many areas of modern life!

My wife and I have two kids and live in a suburban area that is not served by public transportation.  Translation:  we have to drive everywhere, especially with the kids being involved in extra curricular activities, so the one car option isn&#039;t an option in our world.  In fact next year when our son turns 16, we&#039;ll likely become a three car household!

(The kids have bikes but most places they need to go are several miles in one direction, and most streets in the area have no sidewalks or paved shoulders.)

But here&#039;s what we&#039;ve found to be a major help on the expense side--if you have to have a second car, make it a &quot;beater&quot;.  That&#039;s an older car that&#039;s paid for, requires minimal insurance coverage and ad valorem tax, costs only gas and repairs, and doesn&#039;t cause emotional disturbance when ever it gets new scratches, dings and dents.  

It should go without saying that the beater is the car you use for close in travel, such as chauffeuring the kids, or as the car to be used by the spouse with the shorter work commute.  If you have to have two cars, a beater can save thousands.  Your only major cost is repairs, which for the most part will still be a lot less than the cost of monthly payments and premium insurance.  And if the beater craps out, you replace it with... another beater!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt&#8211;Your last point&#8211;&#8221;This post is more an expression of the fact that cars may not be as necessary as society has made them seem&#8221; is well taken, and the primary message of the post.  It seems like you&#8217;re challenging us to confront an assumption (the second car) as a given.  Well done, we need this sort of challenge in many, many areas of modern life!</p>
<p>My wife and I have two kids and live in a suburban area that is not served by public transportation.  Translation:  we have to drive everywhere, especially with the kids being involved in extra curricular activities, so the one car option isn&#8217;t an option in our world.  In fact next year when our son turns 16, we&#8217;ll likely become a three car household!</p>
<p>(The kids have bikes but most places they need to go are several miles in one direction, and most streets in the area have no sidewalks or paved shoulders.)</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve found to be a major help on the expense side&#8211;if you have to have a second car, make it a &#8220;beater&#8221;.  That&#8217;s an older car that&#8217;s paid for, requires minimal insurance coverage and ad valorem tax, costs only gas and repairs, and doesn&#8217;t cause emotional disturbance when ever it gets new scratches, dings and dents.  </p>
<p>It should go without saying that the beater is the car you use for close in travel, such as chauffeuring the kids, or as the car to be used by the spouse with the shorter work commute.  If you have to have two cars, a beater can save thousands.  Your only major cost is repairs, which for the most part will still be a lot less than the cost of monthly payments and premium insurance.  And if the beater craps out, you replace it with&#8230; another beater!</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had one car for MANY years. We always found a way to make it work. 

We were a one car family for about 2 years when we had one child, and then again when my hubby&#039;s paid for car died and we couldn&#039;t afford to replace it.

Unfortunately since then we made bad decisions in regards to car buying, so we&#039;re still paying off a loan on my newer model minivan.

I am considering getting rid of one car, though I have yet to get my hubby on board! 

With 3 of the kids being at schools within walking distance it hardly makes sense for me to use a car most of the time. I think it would require more planning and time on my part, but it could be worth it. 

The one day a week I need the car I figure hubby can either work from home (since we&#039;ll be gone all day), or we can drop him off. 

I&#039;ll have to draw up the numbers to show him how much we could save.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had one car for MANY years. We always found a way to make it work. </p>
<p>We were a one car family for about 2 years when we had one child, and then again when my hubby&#8217;s paid for car died and we couldn&#8217;t afford to replace it.</p>
<p>Unfortunately since then we made bad decisions in regards to car buying, so we&#8217;re still paying off a loan on my newer model minivan.</p>
<p>I am considering getting rid of one car, though I have yet to get my hubby on board! </p>
<p>With 3 of the kids being at schools within walking distance it hardly makes sense for me to use a car most of the time. I think it would require more planning and time on my part, but it could be worth it. </p>
<p>The one day a week I need the car I figure hubby can either work from home (since we&#8217;ll be gone all day), or we can drop him off. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to draw up the numbers to show him how much we could save.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Jabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gary:  Yes, the $180 will eventually be gone, and again... &lt;strong&gt;I am not contending that having a car is bad thing.&lt;/strong&gt;  That said, if you are going to have a car... saving up &amp; paying cash is the way to go - hands down!

&lt;strong&gt;This post is more an expression of the fact that cars may not be as necessary as society has made them seem.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gary:  Yes, the $180 will eventually be gone, and again&#8230; <strong>I am not contending that having a car is bad thing.</strong>  That said, if you are going to have a car&#8230; saving up &amp; paying cash is the way to go &#8211; hands down!</p>
<p><strong>This post is more an expression of the fact that cars may not be as necessary as society has made them seem.</strong><strong></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Kate Kashman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Kashman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been a one car family a few times in our lives (once for a few years, several times for a few months, usually when moving and waiting for cars to ship.)  While it required a lot of cooperation and communication, it wasn&#039;t a big problem when we had no kids, access to transportation, or lived in a smaller town.

Here in the great mid-Atlantic megopolis around Washington, DC, we&#039;ve found it more difficult.  My husband had a half-hour drive to the train station, without a viable alternative, and just keeping the family functioning required that I have a car, too.

Hopefully our next move will let us shed a car and go one-car again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been a one car family a few times in our lives (once for a few years, several times for a few months, usually when moving and waiting for cars to ship.)  While it required a lot of cooperation and communication, it wasn&#8217;t a big problem when we had no kids, access to transportation, or lived in a smaller town.</p>
<p>Here in the great mid-Atlantic megopolis around Washington, DC, we&#8217;ve found it more difficult.  My husband had a half-hour drive to the train station, without a viable alternative, and just keeping the family functioning required that I have a car, too.</p>
<p>Hopefully our next move will let us shed a car and go one-car again.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Garnier</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2009/07/16/testimony-of-a-one-car-couple-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-133215</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Garnier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How in the world do you figure $350/mo...&quot;

But at some point that $180/mo payment goes away, right? I think that&#039;s Leslnk&#039;s point - if you keep cars 10 years (I drove my &#039;86 until 2004, my current &#039;93 is 16 years old) you enjoy a long stretch of no payments, and at some point, dropping collision insurance is a no-brainer. Registration fees also fade to near zero in some states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How in the world do you figure $350/mo&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>But at some point that $180/mo payment goes away, right? I think that&#8217;s Leslnk&#8217;s point &#8211; if you keep cars 10 years (I drove my &#8216;86 until 2004, my current &#8216;93 is 16 years old) you enjoy a long stretch of no payments, and at some point, dropping collision insurance is a no-brainer. Registration fees also fade to near zero in some states.</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Chicago; my family has one car. We either carpool or walk/public transit it everywhere. 

With parking being so expensive, we practically have to only have one car. Unfortunately, going car-free is not yet an option due to work locations (through a not-so-nice neighborhood).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Chicago; my family has one car. We either carpool or walk/public transit it everywhere. </p>
<p>With parking being so expensive, we practically have to only have one car. Unfortunately, going car-free is not yet an option due to work locations (through a not-so-nice neighborhood).</p>
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		<title>By: GaelicWench</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaelicWench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We did the one car thing for quite a while, but that was easy because my fiance is a disabled veteran - still mobile, tho. Anyways, it sure made those monthly (USAA) insurance premiums cheap. 

We now have a second vehicle - 1998 Jeep Wrangler - which he bought with cash. It&#039;s a 6-cyl./4-wheel drive vehicle with a hitch; since we both love to garden, that&#039;ll come in handy when towing a trailer used for the occasional run to Lowe&#039;s.

But, in the meantime, neither of us believe in going somewhere just for the sake of going. When I have a day off, I want to stay home. No errands, no appointments, nada! My job is centrally located in a shopping complex that allows me to run my errands in one trip. Planning and organization is key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did the one car thing for quite a while, but that was easy because my fiance is a disabled veteran &#8211; still mobile, tho. Anyways, it sure made those monthly (USAA) insurance premiums cheap. </p>
<p>We now have a second vehicle &#8211; 1998 Jeep Wrangler &#8211; which he bought with cash. It&#8217;s a 6-cyl./4-wheel drive vehicle with a hitch; since we both love to garden, that&#8217;ll come in handy when towing a trailer used for the occasional run to Lowe&#8217;s.</p>
<p>But, in the meantime, neither of us believe in going somewhere just for the sake of going. When I have a day off, I want to stay home. No errands, no appointments, nada! My job is centrally located in a shopping complex that allows me to run my errands in one trip. Planning and organization is key.</p>
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