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		<title>By: Rick Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.fivecentnickel.com/2010/01/28/when-should-you-start-investing-dfa/comment-page-1/#comment-139352</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Paying off credit card debt can be a better option than taking the employee match.  Provided you dedicate the income stream freed up by paying that CC debt to future matched contributions, and the CC&#039;s interest rate is high enough check out: http://ponderingmoney.com/2009/10/30/which-wins-401k-match-or-high-interest-cc-debt/ 

The matching % actually drops out of the equation so it doesn&#039;t matter if the match is 0% or 100% as long as both present and future contributions have the same match.

-Rick Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Paying off credit card debt can be a better option than taking the employee match.  Provided you dedicate the income stream freed up by paying that CC debt to future matched contributions, and the CC&#8217;s interest rate is high enough check out: <a href="http://ponderingmoney.com/2009/10/30/which-wins-401k-match-or-high-interest-cc-debt/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://ponderingmoney.com/2009.....t-cc-debt/</a> </p>
<p>The matching % actually drops out of the equation so it doesn&#8217;t matter if the match is 0% or 100% as long as both present and future contributions have the same match.</p>
<p>-Rick Francis</p>
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		<title>By: kenyantykoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenyantykoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also think that you must not invest if you have no idea what you are doing. If you are inclined towards value investing, it is important to know how stocks are analysed and how to get good stocks and bonds, portfoloi management, asset allocation and the like. If helps reading as much as you can before taking the plunge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also think that you must not invest if you have no idea what you are doing. If you are inclined towards value investing, it is important to know how stocks are analysed and how to get good stocks and bonds, portfoloi management, asset allocation and the like. If helps reading as much as you can before taking the plunge</p>
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		<title>By: Ace of Wealth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace of Wealth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term investing is a little misleading.  As John pointed out above, I believe that company match should be the number one priority.  Ready my post here on why I think it&#039;s so important:

http://aceofwealth.com/2010/01/take-advantage-of-your-employers-401k-matching/

This is free money and you should take advantage of it if it&#039;s available to you.  As bad as consumer debt can be, it doesn&#039;t match the 50-100% matching the many employers offer.

I think the other factors that you brought up were really great.  You describe most (if not all) of the factors that should determine whether you invest.  I think maybe people only consider the financial factors when deciding to make important financial decisions, but you rightly brought up many personal reasons why someone should or should not invest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term investing is a little misleading.  As John pointed out above, I believe that company match should be the number one priority.  Ready my post here on why I think it&#8217;s so important:</p>
<p><a href="http://aceofwealth.com/2010/01/take-advantage-of-your-employers-401k-matching/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://aceofwealth.com/2010/01.....-matching/</a></p>
<p>This is free money and you should take advantage of it if it&#8217;s available to you.  As bad as consumer debt can be, it doesn&#8217;t match the 50-100% matching the many employers offer.</p>
<p>I think the other factors that you brought up were really great.  You describe most (if not all) of the factors that should determine whether you invest.  I think maybe people only consider the financial factors when deciding to make important financial decisions, but you rightly brought up many personal reasons why someone should or should not invest.</p>
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		<title>By: basicmoneytips.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>basicmoneytips.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I firmly believe in the emergency fund strategy.

However, I actually have a different way of thinking than most people.  While investing in the market is riskey, I do not have a problem with investing part of the emergency fund in a blue chip stock.  Something like Exxon or Walmart usually is a pretty safe investment and can actually go up quite nicely during certain times.

Again, there is risk, but also a bigger reward factor as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I firmly believe in the emergency fund strategy.</p>
<p>However, I actually have a different way of thinking than most people.  While investing in the market is riskey, I do not have a problem with investing part of the emergency fund in a blue chip stock.  Something like Exxon or Walmart usually is a pretty safe investment and can actually go up quite nicely during certain times.</p>
<p>Again, there is risk, but also a bigger reward factor as well.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is my order of priority:
1)Company match
2)small e-fund contribution/month
3)expensive debts like high rate CCs and car loans
4)increase e-fund contribution
5)max Roth IRA or other retirement depending on tax situation.
6)Save for car/motorcycle
7)Finish off the other debts like mortgage, stud loan
8)Profit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is my order of priority:<br />
1)Company match<br />
2)small e-fund contribution/month<br />
3)expensive debts like high rate CCs and car loans<br />
4)increase e-fund contribution<br />
5)max Roth IRA or other retirement depending on tax situation.<br />
6)Save for car/motorcycle<br />
7)Finish off the other debts like mortgage, stud loan<br />
8)Profit!</p>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always go back to this: &quot;Paying off debt is investing too&quot;.  Stating it this way: when is the best time to start investing?  Right now -- pay off your debt!

(do as Matt recommends and have an emergency fund before investing / paying off debt).

Only once your debt is eliminated should you concern yourself about &#039;investing&#039; in the traditional sense -- but do get that 401k match regardless (free money).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always go back to this: &#8220;Paying off debt is investing too&#8221;.  Stating it this way: when is the best time to start investing?  Right now &#8212; pay off your debt!</p>
<p>(do as Matt recommends and have an emergency fund before investing / paying off debt).</p>
<p>Only once your debt is eliminated should you concern yourself about &#8216;investing&#8217; in the traditional sense &#8212; but do get that 401k match regardless (free money).</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started a retirement and mutual fund account last year and have been working to max out the Roth IRA and contribute just a little bit of money each month in the mutual fund.  I am young, single, no debt so want the compound interest to work in my favor over a 10 year period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started a retirement and mutual fund account last year and have been working to max out the Roth IRA and contribute just a little bit of money each month in the mutual fund.  I am young, single, no debt so want the compound interest to work in my favor over a 10 year period.</p>
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		<title>By: Bodark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bodark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solid Post Matt. I&#039;ll save some of the readers some money (as I work in retirements for a living). There is a phrase called &quot;Replacement Ratio&quot;, it&#039;s goal is to measure how much money an employee needs in retirement. 

Paternal employers try to get near 80% (combined total of Employer sponsored plans, personal savings and public plan - social security).

Joe Taxpayer mentioned finance is a personal matter - I agree. 80% is a good replacement ratio for some, other may only need 60 or 40 even. 

Just to the reader, whenever possible save all you can, and own  your stuff before you retire. As the world is full of fixed income retirees, just &quot;barely getting by&quot;, making Golden years, not so fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid Post Matt. I&#8217;ll save some of the readers some money (as I work in retirements for a living). There is a phrase called &#8220;Replacement Ratio&#8221;, it&#8217;s goal is to measure how much money an employee needs in retirement. </p>
<p>Paternal employers try to get near 80% (combined total of Employer sponsored plans, personal savings and public plan &#8211; social security).</p>
<p>Joe Taxpayer mentioned finance is a personal matter &#8211; I agree. 80% is a good replacement ratio for some, other may only need 60 or 40 even. </p>
<p>Just to the reader, whenever possible save all you can, and own  your stuff before you retire. As the world is full of fixed income retirees, just &#8220;barely getting by&#8221;, making Golden years, not so fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started putting money aside for retirement my second paycheck on the job.  Because of my debt, I haven&#039;t increased the amount that I put aside toward retirement until I finish my credit cards and car note.  Given that my job doesn&#039;t have a retirement plan, I&#039;m really glad that I made the decision that I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started putting money aside for retirement my second paycheck on the job.  Because of my debt, I haven&#8217;t increased the amount that I put aside toward retirement until I finish my credit cards and car note.  Given that my job doesn&#8217;t have a retirement plan, I&#8217;m really glad that I made the decision that I did.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeTaxpayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeTaxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very personal decision. I continue to better understand that finance isn&#039;t 100% numbers. One&#039;s risk tolerance, discipline, and religious beliefs all kick in on this topic.

That said, I&#039;d suggest that one start saving the day they get their first job. A company match, especially a dollar for dollar match should (in my opinion) take priority over even paying off credit cards. Most employers, if they match at all, limit to the first 5% of income. So, someone starting out of college at say, $30,000, will only put $1500 into the account.
If this delays the card repayment a bit, fine. If it means never getting those cards paid, there&#039;s a bigger issue that this 5% won&#039;t fix. Adjust spending. If one can live at their means, one can learn to live 5% beneath that.
Better that they get the match and learn to budget on 5% less of their income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very personal decision. I continue to better understand that finance isn&#8217;t 100% numbers. One&#8217;s risk tolerance, discipline, and religious beliefs all kick in on this topic.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;d suggest that one start saving the day they get their first job. A company match, especially a dollar for dollar match should (in my opinion) take priority over even paying off credit cards. Most employers, if they match at all, limit to the first 5% of income. So, someone starting out of college at say, $30,000, will only put $1500 into the account.<br />
If this delays the card repayment a bit, fine. If it means never getting those cards paid, there&#8217;s a bigger issue that this 5% won&#8217;t fix. Adjust spending. If one can live at their means, one can learn to live 5% beneath that.<br />
Better that they get the match and learn to budget on 5% less of their income.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your list makes sense. You certainly don&#039;t want to start investing when you have piles of credit card debt bogging you down. I don&#039;t think you need to necessarily wait until you are debt free either though. 

Once you have eliminated the credit card debt you should take stock of where you are financially and decide if investing makes sense for you. I have been able to eliminate my car loans and soon my student loan while investing for my retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your list makes sense. You certainly don&#8217;t want to start investing when you have piles of credit card debt bogging you down. I don&#8217;t think you need to necessarily wait until you are debt free either though. </p>
<p>Once you have eliminated the credit card debt you should take stock of where you are financially and decide if investing makes sense for you. I have been able to eliminate my car loans and soon my student loan while investing for my retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AN excellent post! You must have an emergency fund before investing ..period.  All your other points make sense as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AN excellent post! You must have an emergency fund before investing ..period.  All your other points make sense as well.</p>
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