A Bit of Auto Bailout Humor

In need of some Holiday cheer? How about a bit of bailout humor?

If you don’t laugh, you’ll cry. Enjoy!

Source: Buffalo Beast

25 Responses to “A Bit of Auto Bailout Humor”

  1. Anonymous

    Well, I did see some humor in this ad. I also found it tremendously ignorant.

    I can understand the Big 3’s reputation for having made crappy cars. For many years, this has been the case. As much as people pile on them, nobody mentions how quality is going up and that they are being recognized by the auto press. Nobody talks about that.

    If you have issues with the UAW or the pricing, then that’s fine. It’s a perfectly valid concern. However, the bullshit that Shelby and his cronies said isn’t true about how American works make a lot more than their Asian counterparts as of this year. Considering that there’s an unbalanced import/export situation, of course the Asian companies are screwing us over.

    Have issues with the union. Have issues with perceived pricing issues. However, let’s not confuse these with inferior quality. Very poor taste.

  2. Anonymous

    The only rational people who do not think the Big 3 and the UAW are at fault for the demise of the American automobile industry are those who’s income is dependent on them. Quality is still suspect (check Consumer Reports), fuel ecomony figures lag behind most imports for similar models, and they pinned the future of their respective companies on trucks and SUVs that anyone could see would be vulnerable to high fuel prices. Add to that the fact that the UAW bullied them into agreeing to ridiculous contracts that are not only out of line with other auto manufacturers, but out of line with virtually any other industry for like jobs. This hinders their ability to make meaningful changes at the plant level and also to fund R&D. The UAW also uses it’s leverage to force bad decisions, such as plant closings based on politics rather than sound business practices, which is good for the union and bad for the company. Unless the management of these companies and the union leaders get their collective heads out of the sand and make the necessary changes, however difficult they may be, the American automobile industry will fail, and take all who depend on it with them.

  3. Anonymous

    Alex:

    Some fault GM, Ford and Chrysler for building too many big trucks and SUVs. But that is what the market wanted — until quite recently. The car industry does not turn on a dime. It is not like making a candy bar or a plastic bucket. Millions of dollars and several years (24-36 months is typical) are needed to design a brand-new, wheels-up new car model and bring it from design sketch to production. The surge in gas prices came upon us — and the auto industry — suddenly.

    Those who fault GM, Ford and Chrysler for not anticipating the uptick forget that every single major Japanese automaker was feverishly working on gigantosaurs of their own circa 2000-2004 — from the aptly named Nissan Titan to the monstrous Toyota Tundra. But they got to the party late — and their exposure was minimal as the feces began to hit the fan. It was relatively painless to throttle back (Nissan and Toyota may actually cancel their big trucks) and re-focus on what they have historically always done best — passenger cars.

    When it comes to quality, check out these objective reports:

    http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/08/autos/jdpa_dependability/index.htm?postversion=2007080909

    and

    http://www.fivecentnickel.com/most-reliable-cars-2008-edition/

  4. Anonymous

    I drive a 1997 Chevy Lumina, my husband drives a 2004 Chevy Impala and all three of our adult kids also drive Chevy cars. Our cars run great and, other than routine oil changes, tires and brake changes, we have had absolutely no trouble with any of our five vehicles. Meanwhile, my co-workers drive a Mercedes, a Toyota and a VW and their cars are constantly in the shop (I know, I have picked them up/dropped them off at the dealerships). I don’t know whether the bailout is a good idea or not but one thing I know for sure is that we have gotten great value out of our Chevy vehicles.

  5. Anonymous

    Converting A Spendthrift – Did you know that your Mazda is really a Ford? Ford is a controlling shareholder of Mazda and their products share many of the same parts.

    The big three face three big problems:

    1. Their reputation has been harmed for making crap. Although they should have focused more on quality than profits, the new models are as good or better than the foreign cars (objectively).

    2. The big three do an excellent job at making the big gas guzzlers. It’s what American wanted. They built it. Gas prices soared (no fault of their own) and you just can’t change your product mix on a dime. However, the big three have been making changes to their models to focus on smaller and more efficient cars.

    3. The credit market is terrible. People can’t get loans to buy cars. Even buying the cars for cash is getting hard, since everybody is becoming members of the unemployment line. NOT the big 3’s fault.

  6. Anonymous

    A couple of basic rules of business are know your customer, be aware of the economic climate, keep a balanced set of books,( you know old fashioned rules like budget), and adapt. Did the big 3 do this in Michigan? There are succesful plants in South America that are making money, so why not Michigan? Could it be that they were so full of their own self importance, and complacent knowing all who worked their would still get their fat paycheck without doing any real work or research? What would have happened if the bigger picture was looked at like, lets take pay cuts to provide more jobs? Lets research what Americans really want in a car, and what they can afford in a car? Why are we bailing companies out who brought around their own demise, instead of forcing adaption? If they had taken the customer seriously, and listened to them they would have a product that would sell. We are not living 20 years ago when people just believed what they were told, now people are a lot more commercial savvy, and think a liitle more about what they want to put their hard earned money, (or credit) into! Young people don’t want huge gas guzzlers they can’t afford to petrol in, they want something small, sleek, a little bit of speed, cheap to repair, good sound system, and a few gadgets in the car.

  7. Anonymous

    Poor planning and management is too blame and for those trying to turn it into Foreign against USA is silly in this day and age. We have factories overseas, they have them here…bottom line is, the car companies need to be competitive and they have not been for awhile, so Honda and Toyota have had high honors.
    My Chevy Camaro was great back in the day, so was my Toyota and currently my Saturn ION is choice.

  8. Anonymous

    Most of you would not admit it if you had problems with your “rice-burners” because you think you have to justify buying one. I have always owned American and have had little problems with any(I’m 69)of them which has been a lot. Currently own, 2007 Milan(32 mpg), 2005 LincolnTC(26mpg), 97 Sable(33mpg-100k), 2004 F150 4×4(17mpg),93 Explorer(21mpg-100k), and all have been basically trouble free. Comparable in size the Japs has nothing to make me buy or want one. I’m American, I support American companies.

  9. Anonymous

    Most of you would not admit it if you had problems with your “rice-burners” because you think you have justify buying one. I have only always owned American and have had little problems with any(I’m 69)of them which has been a lot. Currently own, 2007 Milan(32 mpg), 2005 LincolnTC(26mpg), 97 Sable(33mpg-100k), 2004 F150 4×4(17mpg),93 Explorer(21mpg-100k), and all have been basically trouble free. Comparable in size the Japs has nothing to make me buy or want one. I’m American, I support American companies.

  10. Anonymous

    I drive a Toyota Corolla and a Mazda. I’ve owned 1 American car and it was junk. Will never purchase American again. I’ve also owned 2 German cars and while they are expensive to fix… if you don’t have to fix them, it doesn’t cost a lot.

  11. Anonymous

    Sorry Mike, I have to agree with Nickel.

    I owned a Ford for several years and it seemed like everyweek I needed to have work done.

    The mechanic told me FORD stood for Fixed or Repaired Daily. When that car finally died I bought a Mazda 626, I had two problems (easily repairable) with that car in the years I owned it.

  12. Anonymous

    And the imports stand behind their work. An example – I still have an 01 Acura TL. I’ve had transmission problems – the car was under warranty and the problem was fixed. Even after the warranty expired Acura honored their workmanship and fixed any transmission problems. I’m still driving the car and haven’t had a problem in over 2 years.

    A buddy of mine has an 01 Dodge Intrepid. It, too, has a history of problems, but its an engine sludge problem. His engine blew while still under warranty. Dodge would not honor it, nor fix his car. Bob still has his Intrepid – its sitting in his back yard where it has been for 2 years. I think he’s still paying on the loan, too. He drives a used 1997 Toyota Camry now – he’s paying the note on it, too, but at least it still runs.

  13. Mike: That may be true, but I hardly think it’s a myth that foreign car makers are spreading. Rather, it’s a reality that American car buyers are remembering. They were so bad for so long that people have a hard time forgetting. We now only buy Honda, but we drove a Dodge Grand Caravan up through 2004, and guess what? Transmission problems, just like a high fraction of all other Chrysler minivan drivers. Perhaps they’ve solved these issue in the past couple of years, but I’m not sure that it’s fair to blame either the consumer or foreign car makers here. I’m also not sure that I trust reliability data on the very latest models, as they haven’t been on the road long enough to know how well they’ll do in the long run. With Honda, Toyota, et al., we have a long track record of superior reliability.

  14. Anonymous

    Chrysler’s website used to say something like “It’s not a bailout to keep us from failing — it’s a loan to help us succeed.” Which led to some great alternatives (“It’s not a beer belly, it’s a fuel tank for a sex machine”).

  15. Anonymous

    The ad doesn’t mention the legacy costs brought about by years of appeasing the UAW. Let’s not mention that multi-million dollar golf course that the union owns in Michigan and continues to loose $$ millions per year for the UAW. Maybe they should sell the golf course and support their brothers’ pension plan.

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